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Offline AVP

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TPS weigh for ref DC
« on: November 06, 2010, 11:39:30 pm »
is this the value of TPS for the DC that i give to the solenoid?

so since i use kpa target and not dc, on the DC table i use 60%DC. Is the value on that bin the TPS angle that is required for the solenoid to start from that 60%?

in that case, should it be a small value generally so that i have the solenoid in operation from early on?

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 09:15:15 am »
IMO it scales down refDC. At 100% it gives 100% reduction @ 0%TPS. At 50% it gives just half reduction of refDC@0%TPS.
If you choose somewhat above 100% then reduction will be sharper.

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 09:18:37 am »
if i dont want any reduction at all, what do i use?
for example i want all available ref DC above 25% TPS

what value do i need?

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 10:09:16 am »
if i dont want any reduction at all, what do i use?
Simply 0%. Then Refference DC will cmes directly from table.

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for example i want all available ref DC above 25% TPS
It is not possible I think.
For what reason you want to skip mentioned control?
IMO it is good feature. It helps to control not only throttle but also w-gate operation by feet. It helps on slippery a lot!


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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 11:56:19 am »
im not sure why, but my boost seems to oscillate on full throttle. goes from 100 to 30 and back to 100, which is why my boost oscillates as well. My PID settings i have already tried are:

20/10/5
240/5/50
230/10/10
240/10/10

any ideas?

As for the TPS value, i suppose its ok, so ill set it close to 100 so that i can get some kind of refDC for low TPS values as well. Make the car more agile on low speeds.

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 12:01:39 pm »
Do you mean BoostDC oscillates? You allways can try 0/0/0 for PID. Then BoostDC will comes directly from RefDc table.
Can you post a log file?
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 12:03:39 pm by GintsK »

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 12:15:58 pm »
boost DC oscillates, yes and along with that the boost itself

i have a log file, need to figure out how to upload it.

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 12:20:24 pm »

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 12:25:00 pm »
used an alternate way

have a look, its towards the end

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2010, 12:59:27 pm »
I can't figure out reason of boost target fluctuations! It goes as high as 320kpa!  Look at this!
As result boost controller goes in some kind of resonance.

P.S. are you sure about your lambda table?

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 01:31:30 pm »
Found it! Anytrim control! I suppose you do not use it?

If you go for high P values, it is good idea use higher D values too. It prevent from rapid DC changes.

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 01:33:29 pm »
the VE map is in the process of getting richer, it should  have been adequate as it was a 1;1 transfer from my megatune, so it gets better values as it goes. Dont know why, but on megatune and 3.1req_fuel, same injectors, the table was ideal. Now i find that i have to elevate all values by a margin of 4-9 values.

anyway, i tried without the PID, and although my DC table was all to 60 and i use the map target for boost, it got no more than 230kpa on 3d gear.

now i increased the DC ref table (gear depended) and im going to retest.

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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 01:35:06 pm »
anytrim is enabled on my config, but i havent used it for the time being. I wanted to test how the boost would be without it first.

ECu was tested and sent to me with anytrim on and PID: 20/10/10. Also anytrim does not work if PID is set to zero.


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Re: TPS weigh for ref DC
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 01:36:04 pm »
how could you see from the log that i have anytrim????