Water temp sender calibration

[MWfire]

then you chose what type of you want to upload (12x12) or (16x14).
For 12x12 type 3 and new firmware with new sensor calibration will be burned.

[Tony C]

Hi mate,
right did as you said,
BUT checked what the temp gauge was reading before and after,
on old settings was readign 33C (have an 88C stat fitted and gauge only goes up to 82ish if im luckly when stat opens and fans come on,)
uploaded new settings (1900_256) let it do its thing then the fuel pump started to let me know upload was sucessful,
opened MT again to look at temp gauge, still 33C mmmmmmmm
so ran car up to temp and it still only reads 82ish when stat opens,
with old firmware the temp gauge went up to 90ish when stat opened,
have downloaded the config after upload would you be able to tell from this if upload of new coolant files was done?

[Tony C]

Config:

# Dump generated from version 1.1.44


primep=64
primep_temp_scaling=26
cwl=00
cwh=00
cranking_thres=03
awev=50
awev_temp_scaling=17
awec=22
shiftcut_potlow=00
shiftcut_pothi=00
shiftcut_retcut=00
boost_matdec=00
boost_egtdec=00
iacref_matslope=0A
shiftcut_minrpm=00
blabla[0]=00
blabla[1]=00
blabla[2]=00
warmup_clt[0]=9E
warmup_clt[1]=96
warmup_clt[2]=92
warmup_clt[3]=8F
warmup_clt[4]=8C
warmup_clt[5]=87
warmup_clt[6]=7E
warmup_clt[7]=71
warmup_clt[8]=69
warmup_clt[9]=64
warmup_rpm_scale=80
req_fuel=54
divider=01
alternate=07
injopen=00
battfac=00
kpafac=7D
kpaoffs=B1
injocfuel=00
injrampup_battfac=FF
injpwm=FF
injpwmt=FF
als_launch_input=CC
rpmk[0]=05
rpmk[1]=DC
tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00
tpsdotrate[0]=01
tpsdotrate[1]=07
tpsdotrate[2]=14
tpsdotrate[3]=29
tpsaq[0]=1C
tpsaq[1]=12
tpsaq[2]=07
tpsaq[3]=05
als_cut_mintps=FF
tpsasync=05
acmult=32
tpsacold=05
launch_enrich=96
launch_retard=0F
overrun_fuelcut=FF
overrun_fuelresume=FF
rev_limit=41
airden_ignore=00
config11=70
config12=30
config13=06
batt_cal=BB
iac2load=00
als_max_cut=00
dbaro=0C
tps_low=0A
tps_high=D6
fan_temp=F1
fan_hyst=05
fan_channel=FF
iac_step_seq=63
iac_conf=6C
iac_max_steps=A0
iac_tps_thres=05
iac_cold_idle_temp=BF
iac_warm_idle_temp=AB
iac_cold_rpm=7D
iac_warm_rpm=5F
iac_cold_start_pos=A0
iac_warm_start_pos=64
iac_afterstart_rpm=1E
iac_afterstart_duration=28
iac_speed=03
iac_kp=0A
iac_ki=14
iac_kd=2E
launch_rpm=00
iac_integral_limit_dec=20
iac_integral_limit_inc=40
iac_integral_deadband=0A
iac_deadband=05
als_cut_maxtps=00
confswitch=00
iac_ref_pos[0]=97
iac_ref_pos[1]=94
iac_ref_pos[2]=91
iac_ref_pos[3]=8F
iac_ref_pos[4]=8C
iac_ref_pos[5]=87
iac_ref_pos[6]=82
iac_ref_pos[7]=78
iac_ref_pos[8]=4F
iac_ref_pos[9]=1F
iac_sol_channel=0F
iac_ign_slope=28
softrpm_range=28
iac_ign_advance_limit=10
iac_ign_retard_limit=30
iac_ign_threshold=08
ego_conf=06
ego_lag=03
ego_coolant=C6
ego_maxtps=E6
ego_maxmap=82
ego_minrpm=06
ego_maxrpm=4B
ego_warmup=1E
ego_lean_limit=00
ego_rich_limit=08
ego_pid_kp=40
als_enrich=00
ego_delta=03
ego_target=19
ego_pid_window=FF
wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0
als_react_tps=00
wbo2_abs_limit=E4
wbo2_limit_maxt=A0
wbo2_fallback=B0
wbo2_retry_t=06
als_retard_rpm1=00
als_retard_rpm2=00
wbo2_ri_target=96
wbo2_nernstdc_target=88
wbo2_pump_pw_zero=64
wbo2_calibration=A8
wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46
wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10
wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A
wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80
wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15
wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E
wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00
wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84
wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80
knock_chan=01
knock_sampling_window=F3
knock1_frequency=26
knock1_gain=0E
knock1_integrator=10
knock2_frequency=26
knock2_gain=0E
knock2_integrator=10
knock_threshold=FF
knock_noise_scale=80
knock_max_retard=28
knock_default_retard=00
knock_retard_step=02
knock_retard_delay=01
knock_advance_step=02
knock_advance_delay=07
knock_minrpm=0F
knock_maxrpm=50
ve_learn_coolant=CC
ve_learn_max_power=FF
ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E
ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E
ve_learn_ego_scale=43
ve_learn_min_weight=4D
ve_learn_speed=FF
ve_learn_limit=FF
ve_learn_conf=00
lcd_c0=BA
lcd_delay=FF
lcd_backlight=FF
kpa_conf=21
als_igncut_rpm2=00
als_retard_mintps=FF
als_retard_maxtps=00
lcd_default_view=00
primary_trigger=19
secondary_trigger=02
tooth_wheel=23
trigger_tooth=01
another_trigger_tooth=09
crank_minper=75
tooth_wheel_twidth[0]=00
tooth_wheel_twidth[1]=28
cam_sync_r_edge_phase=FF
cam_sync_f_edge_phase=FF
reset_engphase_after=D8
ign_tdcdelay=82
ign_dwell14=4E
ign_dwellmap=00
ign_crank_advance=1C
ign_out=70
ignchmax=03
engine_off_delay=0A
pump_on_mintime=0B
fuelpump_channel=57
inj_stage2_rate=FF
inj_stage2_start_tps=FF
inj_stage2_start_map=FF
als_igncut_rpm1=00
als_deact_time=0A
als_deact_egt=00
als_retard=00
als_rev_limit=FF
misc1out_minrpm=00
misc1out_maxrpm=64
misc1out_mintps=80
misc1out_maxtps=FF
misc1out_minmap=00
misc1out_maxmap=FF
misc1out_channel=5F
misc2out_minrpm=00
misc2out_maxrpm=50
misc2out_mintps=00
misc2out_maxtps=80
misc2out_minmap=00
misc2out_maxmap=FF
misc2out_channel=1F
act_wot_rpm=FF
act_wot_channel=FF
act_rpm_rpm=FF
act_rpm_channel=FF
egt1_cal=4A
als_tks_channel=FF
boost_conf=00
boost_targetoffs=00
boost_minpressure=FF
boost_pid_kp=20
boost_pid_ki=80
boost_pid_kd=01
boost_pid_ilimit=FF
boost_channel=FF
water_pump_temp=5A
hybrid_rpm_a=00
hybrid_rpm_m=00
water_pump_hyst=00
water_pump_channel=0F
toothrel_normal=84
toothrel_missing=32
fuelcut_min_kpa=14
fuelcut_max_kpa=78
tach_channel=12
tach_div=12
shiftcut_conf_input=F8
shiftcut_tpsthresh=00
shiftcut_time=FF
softrpm_rpm=FF
n2o_mintps=00
n2o_minrpm=00
n2o_maxrpm=00
n2o_retard=00
n2o_minkpa=00
n2o_maxkpa=00
n2o_input=00
n2o_output_channel=00
n2o_settings=00
launch_out_channel=00
launch_out_delay=00
launch_out_pwmlow=00
launch_out_pwmhigh=00
launch_out_pwmramp=00
launch_out_ontime=00
launch_out_conf=00
boostsw_conf=00
boostgauge_channel=0F
boostgauge_offset=00
boostgauge_mul=00
map_filter=00
speed_sensor=00
gears[0]=00
gears[1]=00
gears[2]=00
gears[3]=00
gears[4]=00
gears[5]=00
boost_mult[0]=00
boost_mult[1]=00
boost_mult[2]=00
boost_mult[3]=00
boost_mult[4]=00
inj_mult_trim[0]=00
inj_mult_trim[1]=00
inj_mult_trim[2]=00
inj_mult_trim[3]=00
inj_mult_trim[4]=00
inj_mult_trim[5]=00
inj_mult_trim[6]=00
inj_mult_trim[7]=00
iac_conf2=00
warning_rpm=00
warning_kpa=00
warning_conf=00
warning_adc_value=00
warning_egt=00
warning_afr=00
warning_clt=00
warning_channel=00
injection_angle=00
boost_tps_dc_scale=00
n2o_mingear=00
misc1out_conditions=00
misc1out_condition1=00
misc1out_condition2=00
misc2out_conditions=00
misc2out_condition1=00
misc2out_condition2=00
knock_gain[0]=00
knock_gain[1]=00
knock_gain[2]=00
knock_gain[3]=00
knock_gain[4]=00
knock_gain[5]=00
knock_gain[6]=00
knock_gain[7]=00
knock_reference[0]=00
knock_reference[1]=00
knock_reference[2]=00
knock_reference[3]=00
knock_reference[4]=00
knock_reference[5]=00
knock_reference[6]=00
knock_reference[7]=00
knock_calibration_min=00
knock_calibration_max=00
inj_add_trim[0]=00
inj_add_trim[1]=00
inj_add_trim[2]=00
inj_add_trim[3]=00
inj_add_trim[4]=00
inj_add_trim[5]=00
inj_add_trim[6]=00
inj_add_trim[7]=00
inj_deadtime[0]=00
inj_deadtime[1]=00
inj_deadtime[2]=00
inj_deadtime[3]=00
inj_deadtime[4]=00
inj_deadtime[5]=00
inj_deadtime[6]=00
inj_deadtime[7]=00
inj_deadtime[8]=00
inj_deadtime[9]=00
acc_coeff_cold=00
acc_coeff_warm=00
acc_fadeout_rate1=00
acc_fadeout_rate2=00
acc_tps_deadband=00
dec_coeff_cold=00
dec_coeff_warm=00
dec_fadeout_rate1=00
dec_fadeout_rate2=00
dec_tps_deadband=00
film_coeff_cold=00
film_coeff_warm=00
film_rate=00
film_scale=00
film_rpm_scale=00
vvti_cold=00
vvti_idle=00
vvti_pid_kp=00
vvti_pid_ki=00
vvti_pid_kd=00
vvti_pid_ilimit=00
vvti_channel=00
accel_rpm[0]=0Am[1]=14
accel_rC
accel_scale[0
accel_scale[2]=nj_stage2_conf=0
crankpw[1]=F8
3]=F5
crankpw[4nkpw[6]=AE
cran
crankpw[9]=64

Tables:
j[0]=0A 0B 0B 0E 11 14 1C 22 29 34 42 4C
j[1]=0C 0D 0F 12 15 1B 21 26 2E 37 46 53
j[2]=12 12 15 17 1A 1B 25 2A 33 3E 4D 58
j[3]=19 1A 1C 1E 1E 1F 27 31 38 45 52 5C
j[4]=1B 1C 1E 21 21 26 2C 34 3F 4B 57 60
j[5]=1E 20 21 24 27 2B 34 3B 45 4F 5A 64
j[6]=22 24 26 27 27 2E 39 40 47 54 5E 67
j[7]=2A 2C 2B 2B 2F 33 3C 44 4C 56 60 69
j[8]=30 34 32 33 32 39 42 47 51 5A 63 69
j[9]=33 36 39 39 3C 41 47 4A 55 5D 63 6B
j[A]=36 38 3B 3E 43 46 4B 53 58 5F 64 6D
j=38 3B 3F 42 46 4B 4F 56 5B 63 67 6C
l[0]=48 47 44 44 44 44 3F 3F 3D 3D 3B 32
l[1]=48 47 40 40 40 40 40 36 36 32 32 32
l[2]=48 47 37 37 36 36 36 36 36 32 32 34
l[3]=48 44 37 37 36 36 36 36 36 36 37 37
l[4]=48 44 3D 37 36 36 36 36 37 3D 3D 44
l[5]=48 44 3D 3B 37 36 36 3D 3D 44 47 48
l[6]=47 44 44 3D 3D 37 3D 3D 44 48 4D 4F
l[7]=47 47 44 44 47 48 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 51
l[8]=47 47 47 47 48 4D 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 51
l[9]=44 4D 4D 4D 4F 4F 4F 4F 4F 51 51 55
l[A]=3D 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 5C
l=3B 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 55 5C 5C
n[0]=39 3A 3F 41 77 8D 9A A0 A3 A5 A6 A8
n[1]=38 38 3A 3E 78 8A 95 9B 9E A0 A2 A4
n[2]=34 35 39 48 78 87 92 98 9C 9E A0 A2
n[3]=30 31 31 54 72 80 8A 91 95 98 9B 9E
n[4]=30 31 31 57 6F 7C 86 8D 90 94 98 9A
n[5]=30 31 36 58 6C 79 83 88 8C 90 94 96
n[6]=30 33 3B 58 6A 76 7E 82 86 8A 8E 90
n[7]=33 34 3D 57 66 6F 75 7B 7E 82 86 89
n[8]=33 34 3D 53 60 67 6D 72 76 7A 7F 81
n[9]=35 36 3E 50 5A 60 66 6A 6D 71 77 7A
n[A]=35 36 3C 49 4F 55 5A 5E 61 65 6A 6E
n=36 37 3B 45 4A 4F 53 57 5B 62 67 6B
k[0]=19 1E 23 2D 32 3C 41 46 50 55 64 69
r[0]=06 09 0C 11 16 1B 20 25 2A 31 3A 40
h[0]=04 08 80 01 02 40 10 20
h[1]=1B 12 09 00 1B 12 09 00
h[2]=70 60 00 20 30 70 50 10
y[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[3]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[8]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[9]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y[A]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
y=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
b[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
t[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
e[0]=00 1E 48 6C 90 B4 D8 FC
e[1]=00 26 4D 73 99 BF E6 FF
e[2]=E4 C0 9E 8C 7C 78 74 70
e[3]=E4 C0 9E 8C 78 70 5A 3E
e[4]=E4 C0 9E 8C 74 6C 52 38
e[5]=E4 C0 9E 8C 6C 60 44 2A
e[6]=E4 C0 9E 8C 6C 5C 44 2A
e[7]=E4 C0 9E 8C 6C 5C 44 2A
e[8]=E4 C0 9E 8C 6C 5C 44 2A
e[9]=E4 C0 9E 8C 6C 5C 44 2A

[Sprocket]

The Hex patch file that Dave sent you is one that Dave spent a lot of time creating specificaly for the Standard Rover sensors used on their V8. IT IS NOT THE 1900_256 file that MWfire said to up load.

There could be two things why the sensors are still reading the same. Either the 1900_256 hex patch files were already in use, or, the files could not be found and the hex patch was skipped. You would see this in the generate config window.

You need to rename the cltfactor_1900_256.clt file found in ..\firmware_1.1.44alpha2\wintools\coolantfactor folder. Simply add .inactive to the very end of the file. Then rename a COPY of the file Dave gave you (keep the original safe somewhere to use again in the future), to  cltfactor_1900_256.clt and place it in the above folder.

Do the whole firmware upload thing and select the 1900_256 files. check that the hex patch has worked, normally a screen that shows pretty much the contents of the file Dave gave you, which you posted earlier.

[Tony C]

cheers mate,
just got home from work to this message so will do it now and go try it again,

thanks alot for the help.

[Tony C]

have done that,
think its sorted as it goes up to 85-86C before cooling fans cut in on the rad now and not 82C,
has an 88C stat fitted, does that mean stat is fully open at 88C? or starts to open at 88C??
and what sort of reading should i be getting on the temp gauge on MT?

it did say after a load of lines had been replaced on the upload one line was not replaced,
cant remember what it said now, sorry,
how can i tell if the said coolant hex has been uploaded ?
i think it has but would like to double check if possible.

thanks for every ones input who has helped,

[Sprocket]

The temperature of the stat is the point at which it starts to open. No good having a fan coming on before the stat opens. However the temp reading you have in MT might not be the actual temperature of the coolant, as there will always be inacuracies especialy with aged sensors. the only way to be sure of what is going on is to use a calibrated digital thermometer and physicaly measure the coolant temp at the sensor