How to identify correct cylinder for individual injector trim

[black]

there are a few tables I dont like the way vems showing them - f.e. injector trim.

how do I exactly identify the right cylinder to the numbers at Multiplier Trim 0-4

[mads b (dk)]

Dont You know which cylinder You have connected to what  output ?

[black]

Dont You know which cylinder You have connected to what  output ?

Don't get your question.

On the left picture you can see my connections.

The question is - do the numbers 0-4 on the right picture match to the injector numbers 0-4? Confusing is the sentence: "this table is shown in engine rotation order"

[gunni]

Cylinder identification needs to be implemented in the ecu.
you say inj0 = cyl2

everything else in the ECU referes to Cyl2.

[black]

Again this is clear, in the picture you can see my actual cylinder identification
Z1-I0
Z2-I4
Z4-I3
Z5-I2
Z3-I1
this is no issue... 

I dont get why VEMSTune does not use the cylinder numbers in the menue on the right or uses a description what the numbers represent. This is an issue also in knock control.

My question is: Do the numbers in the right menue represent the injector channel numbers 0-4?
I have no question about the left menu - is a solid running config.

[black]

ok obsolete - found out by myself by testing a few percentage and analysing pulsewide via expression grid for all 5 injectors...

[fphil]

right, faster to believe what one sees by himself

[black]

right, faster to believe what one sees by himself

true but here you can guess again -  and no expression grid for individual spark

[Denmark]

+1 to this topic

This is a pity to understand
Not a problem if you dont want to trim the ign retard og inj dc
But if you do , you need to check everything manuel
As there is No discription that is understandble

So thumps up for explained Way to know whats what

[Kamuto]

it works from top of your ignition output table, if you are firing cylinder 5 in top of ignition table, then top row in trim table will be cylinder number 5

[fphil]

it works from top of your ignition output table, if you are firing cylinder 5 in top of ignition table, then top row in trim table will be cylinder number 5

Yes, possibly  . In that case it should not be much work to edit the "Cyl separated spark delay" window per ex as

""Ignition delay per cylinder"
This table is shown in the order top to down of the Ignition outputs table"

and to skip the numbers of the first column which is confusing, and btw

- to change the window title "h[2] table - Ignition outputs" by "Ignition outputs table",
- and the item name in the menu which calls this table from "Ignition Outputs visual" to "Ignition outputs table"

It is really hard to understand why such an editing work is not done.

While at that one should edit the associated help
"Arrow shows direction of traverse. "Realcylinder number(s)", as set here, show up in per cylinder Knock and individual power gauges..., to show ... for something shorter 

[black]

it works from top of your ignition output table, if you are firing cylinder 5 in top of ignition table, then top row in trim table will be cylinder number 5

so the numbers on the left side at

injector trim
0
1
2
3
4
spark delay
0
4
3
2
1
knock channels
4
3
2
1
0
are meaningless
its allways  the cylinder sequence from top to bottom - in the shown case:
1
2
4
5
3
? ?

[Denmark]

Cylinder identification needs to be implemented in the ecu.
you say inj0 = cyl2

everything else in the ECU referes to Cyl2.

Thats the Way to do it  asap

[Denmark]

it works from top of your ignition output table, if you are firing cylinder 5 in top of ignition table, then top row in trim table will be cylinder number 5

So on the picture obove cyl 1 is the top in the retard table also ?
And next cyl 2

What about the knock screen then , how does this relate to Real cylinder ?

[Kamuto]

ok, lets take audi, top row cylinder 1 ignition channel, firing order 1-2-4-5-3
all other trims, retard, knock I believe will be too top row will be cylinder 1
second cylinder 2

if you have 4 cylinder in top of ignition table then all the trim, retard tables will be counting from
4
5
3
1
2

anyway, guys programing it has other issues to sort which leads to new products, and so on anyway just to know which cylinder is which you can always disable one injector and look at the individual power curves, than enable injector and try trim some cylinder like 75% then on individual power curve you will see you are right or not