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Why no CAN ?

Started by gunni, March 05, 2014, 10:14:03 PM

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gunni

Will there be CAN at all in VEMS?

I work in top level motorsport on a daily basis, and essentially/literally todays race/club cars wouldn´t work without CAN of some sort.

With proper GUI implementation it could be an incredible asset to the ecu and allow VEMS to develop additional hardware to go with it.
number one would be SD card logger via pre-defined CAN stream, allowing high speed logging and instant offloading. It also allows the ECU to be used with any of the video recording loggers for race cars. VBOX , RACE KEEPER and so on, they all accept CAN streams and could receive the basic signals from VEMS.
It would also allow a 1MBIT CAN stream to the Laptop. This can provide high speed logging as well as alot more detailed data stream from ECU - LAPTOP without lack of stream speed.

The possibilities become literally endless.
Output to CAN logger, to dash, to car electronics, gearboxes, diff controllers, other VEMS designed hardware
Input from CAN analog/digital expansion box, from ABS modules ( wheel speeds , ABS activity, G sensors ), from OEM control modules, from Lambda boxes, from EGT sensor boxes and so on and so on.

Ideally ditching the whole AIM protocol to the VEMS round would be the best starting point and use CAN. Any channel from the ecu without limitations could be sent from the ECU to the Round for viewing.

free .dbc file editor/viewer
http://www.kvaser.com/software/7330130980334/V2/UG_98033_kvaser_database_editor_userguide.pdf
Could be used to make CAN streams for the ECU. .dbc file format is the industry standard.
So you would simply load the ecu with a .dbc file and jobs done.

More on CAN
http://www.kvaser.com/software/7330130980914/V1/can2spec.pdf

http://www.kvaser.com/support/downloads/

Thoughts?

VEMS

Hello Gunni,

We are already making developments in this direction (currently in prototype HW stage). More info will be available in due time.

Best regards, Dave

Denmark

working on the boxer

gunni

That is great news Dave.

any potential VEMS hardware that will be CAN based?

Kamuto

maybe new version of vems board?
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gunni

I meant something like analog expansion hardware, logger and so on

Kamuto

anyway expansion hw would be great  :o
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VEMS

The new module is expansion, used together with v3 and acts as a bridge (USB, CAN, several serial ports), adds considerable analog and digital io, adds even more trigger inputs, adds considerable amount of high side drivers and high current push pull driver (ETC control) has onboard logging (SD card) with RTC.

All will be elaborated in due time.

Best regards, Dave

gunni

Now that is some good news !!

peter_jensen


NOTORIOUS VR

Quote from: VEMS on March 07, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
The new module is expansion, used together with v3 and acts as a bridge (USB, CAN, several serial ports), adds considerable analog and digital io, adds even more trigger inputs, adds considerable amount of high side drivers and high current push pull driver (ETC control) has onboard logging (SD card) with RTC.

All will be elaborated in due time.

Best regards, Dave

This makes me extremely happy!

Kamuto

Quote from: NOTORIOUS VR on April 05, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
Quote from: VEMS on March 07, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
The new module is expansion, used together with v3 and acts as a bridge (USB, CAN, several serial ports), adds considerable analog and digital io, adds even more trigger inputs, adds considerable amount of high side drivers and high current push pull driver (ETC control) has onboard logging (SD card) with RTC.

All will be elaborated in due time.

Best regards, Dave

This makes me extremely happy!

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wazzu70

Awesome :)

I had been wondering if a V4 board or something would be released to include these options.

Keep up the good work!
BMW E30 M42 project

Kamuto

Quote from: wazzu70 on April 09, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Awesome :)

I had been wondering if a V4 board or something would be released to include these options.

Keep up the good work!
yes it's about the time, because when you need to start something like s54 or other engine it's real mess inside the case
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magoo

Some news about this?

I have a Dash 2 that I would like to get up and working with my Vems.
Race Technology serial interface for vems is of no use  ( just gives random numbers)