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What are the correct primary trigger settings for VAG 60-2 oem wheel

Started by boostd audi, June 03, 2011, 07:49:06 PM

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boostd audi

i am looking for the primary trigger settings for a VAG 60-2 oem wheel. using oem Vr sensor. from the aba.
TDC after the trig= 79
#of teeth = 58
first trig = 0
next trig = 30
angular width = 6

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boostd audi

my thoughts are i have wrong polarity or wrong trigger settings..
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Jim_W

I know another VEMS user successfully using the following settings on an ABA 16v:

TDC after the trig= 60.0
#of teeth = 58
first trig = 4
next trig = 30
angular width = 6

I will hopefully confirm these settings on my ABA this weekend.  Maybe another forum member can confirm these settings.  Lugnuts?

Ignitec

set 4th tooth as trigger tooth
tdc after trig 60
next 30

lock ignition

check with strobe

fine tune angle (tdc after trig) to have same readings from strobe light and vemstune

you need 5 mins for correct settings :)
If you have everything under control, you\\\'re not fast enough!

boostd audi

with this picture there are 13 teeth from missing to TDC

360/60 teeth = 6 degrees per tooth.  = 79 degrees after the trig?

this looks right to me? am i wrong here?

http://www.box.net/shared/4blm0kcb92

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boostd audi

why use first trigger tooth of 4 and not 0.. is tooth 0 not the first tooth after the missing?

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boostd audi

HERE ARE THE CORRECT SETTINGS FOR VAG 60-2

I've put on the TDC after trigger 79°=> checked with a digital strobe light @ cyl 1 timing pouley side.
First trigger tooth :0
Next trigger tooth (distance):30
Angular width:6°
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Ignitec

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boostd audi

can you explain why?

4th tooth is only 54 deg and tooth 0 is 79.. i prefer the higher value for timing purpose.
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Ignitec

next trigger tooth is 30 teeth after, so it's 34th if you use 4th as first trigger tooth.
If you have everything under control, you\\\'re not fast enough!

mattias

It's sort of a Bosch standard to have the first trigger tooth 60 deg before TDC, I guess that's why. 
It doesn't matter much with the current firmware, it fires the spark accurately regardless of the distance to TDC.

Let's stop there.

You have problem with trigger errors. First thing you should provide is firmware info, then a triggerlog.

boostd audi

i got it sorted out with my errors..  however i was curious why some have said you tooth 4 instead of 0.

tdc is 90 degrees from the missing so using 0 or 4 wouldnt make tdc 60 degrees away

anyone else have an idea why to use tooth 4 rather then 0
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boostd audi

i didnt know if using tooth 4  moves the trigger away from the missing so if you have camsync they do not race together.

but it seems the older firmware used to not like tooth 0 and gave issues.. now it doesn't matter what trigger tooth you use..

just strobe to find the tdc degree from that trgger.
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mattias

Quote from: boostd audi on June 06, 2011, 03:31:53 PM
i didnt know if using tooth 4  moves the trigger away from the missing so if you have camsync they do not race together.
The cam sync only races with the missing teeth, nothing else matters.

boostd audi

well it seems i get a missing tooth once every couple revolution..  and im getting trig error again

here is the trigger log

http://www.box.net/shared/6slej8pi6l

and here is csv
http://www.box.net/shared/qnr19httyn
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