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Technical => Triggering => Topic started by: Pet on June 08, 2009, 09:41:23 PM

Title: 60-2 Fiat wheel - primary triger setting, help
Post by: Pet on June 08, 2009, 09:41:23 PM
Hi, my friend is preparing his car for Vems and has this 60-2 wheel (from Fiat Kappa 2.0 16V T). And I am not sure, how to setup this wheel config. Also the first and the last teeth are litlle bit strange, i don't know, if it can work.. Thx for any help.

(http://www.mervart.eu/vems/phob60-2s.jpg)
Title: Re: 60-2 Fiat wheel - primary triger setting, help
Post by: [email protected] on June 08, 2009, 09:57:23 PM
Hi, any 60-2 config should work, try this:
http://www.vems.co.uk/VEMSInstalls/VemsMT1.0.73.60-2.zip
Title: Re: 60-2 Fiat wheel - primary triger setting, help
Post by: Pet on September 18, 2009, 03:10:52 PM
Only if am I right:
from pic above: TDC occurs 20 teeth after the -2gap crosses sensor, it means 20*6=120deg. When I set trigger tooth to 10 (60deg after -2gap), then TDC after trigger is 120 - 10*6= 60deg, and for advance I have 50deg window. Am I right ?
Thx.
Title: Re: 60-2 Fiat wheel - primary triger setting, help
Post by: [email protected] on September 18, 2009, 04:54:24 PM
It would give you a 60deg window, but how the electrical signal 'looks' to the ECU in comparison to how the wheel looks to us is a different matter, so you will need to fine tune the TDC after trigger value with a timing light - and then you'll know the exact advance window.  It is recommended to have the trigger tooth 90 to 60 deg BTDC so you have room to use tooth 8 or 9 if you wish.
Title: Re: 60-2 Fiat wheel - primary triger setting, help
Post by: Pet on September 18, 2009, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: [email protected] on September 18, 2009, 04:54:24 PM
It would give you a 60deg window, but how the electrical signal 'looks' to the ECU in comparison to how the wheel looks to us is a different matter, so you will need to fine tune the TDC after trigger value with a timing light - and then you'll know the exact advance window.  It is recommended to have the trigger tooth 90 to 60 deg BTDC so you have room to use tooth 8 or 9 if you wish.
Thanks, of course 60deg window for advance....
Yes, that's true, you have to check the advance with the timing light for exact value...
I mean only if I am thinking right, when I am calculating trigger parameters for the wheel ;)

Thanks Rob.
Title: Re: 60-2 Fiat wheel - primary triger setting, help
Post by: Pet on September 30, 2009, 01:35:50 PM
So that Fiat engine is running already, and my "calculations" were almost right ;) We've set Trigger tooth to 6, then TDC after trigger is 77deg (which means 6*6+77=113deg from missing teeth to TDC => it's almost 19teeth). This was checked with timing light.
Edit: this engine previously made 370HP/410Nm with MSII ;)