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Title: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: Agriv8 on April 09, 2007, 04:52:44 PM

Both of my Timming guns dont like the waisted spark coil packs I have.

Anybody sugest a good one that is known to work with waisted spark.

Both are old and were inherited.

So sugestions welcolm on a replacement so I can get the v8 running on The coils.

Kind regards

Agriv8

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: [email protected] on April 09, 2007, 06:58:36 PM

I've always had good results with rubbish cheap ones that dont claim to know the spark advance.
Currently I tote a Gunson Advance Xenon Timing Light.
Although if I could have found a Gunson Basic Xenon Timing Light I would have been just as happy.

Rob

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: dnb on April 10, 2007, 01:23:47 AM

Wasted spark shouldn't be a problem for the timing lamp - both the sparks should be at the same crank position.

Like Rob, I use basic cheapo timing equipment ;)

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: [email protected] on April 10, 2007, 10:03:52 AM

The "clever" ones expect to see one pulse per cylinder - with wasted spark they see two pulses which screws up the thing's guessed RPM and advance calculations.

Rob

Title: HALF-FORDS / HALfrauds
Post by: irishtwincam on April 10, 2007, 10:22:39 AM

They sell the gunson xenon for 40squid here in Engerland.
In Ireland they charge 120plus friggin yoyos. Thats twice the price.
Thieving SCUM!

But it does work with twin coils.

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: [email protected] on April 10, 2007, 11:50:07 AM

Thanks for that, I'll look forward to their legal department contacting me ;D

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: Agriv8 on April 10, 2007, 12:57:00 PM

Posted the same question on locostbuilders a form for us 7 kit car type builders. and started a bit of a rucus oops ::) ::)

The consesus of there is that Expensive ( read snap-off profesional ect ) can cope with waisted spark coil packs even when fitted with the advance options but these can double up the reading for RPM and advance.

Cheaper guns with Advance features can and do get confused.

So ordered a Draper one ( without advance settings ) for Ã,Â£22 delivered from Ebay from a company with good delivery record. A couple of forum members say that they use this gun with the fors waisted coil packs.

This has given me an idea of a sticky for one of the forums a sort of tool list before you start.

I.e.

Digital multimeter Sugested able to read ( volts, Ohms, Temperature, Curcuit test )
Soldering iron min 15W ( changable tips point and flat )
Test lamp
Ratchet crimper
Heat srink
Timing gun
Wire Strippers

Just a thought

Regards

Agriv8

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: [email protected] on April 10, 2007, 01:19:37 PM

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: Agriv8 on April 10, 2007, 01:52:43 PM

Laptop
Digital multimeter Sugested able to read ( volts, Ohms, Temperature, Curcuit test )
Soldering iron min 15W ( changable tips point and flat )
Test lamp
Ratchet crimper
Heat srink
Timing gun
Wire Strippers
RS232 cable
EasySync USB to RS232 converter (if Laptop does not have RS232)

oh yeah forgot laptop surrounded by them at work so they tend to blend into the background.

a couple more.

A pair of small jewlers screwdrivers ( flat bladed ) for removing Pins from econoseal plugs ( one to lift holding clip - one to push pin out )
Liquid paper for marking Crank / TDC point

Must be more.

regards

Agriv8

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: cliffb75 on April 10, 2007, 08:40:27 PM

Laptop
Digital multimeter Sugested able to read ( volts, Ohms, Temperature, Curcuit test )
Soldering iron min 15W ( changable tips point and flat )
Test lamp
Ratchet crimper
Heat shrink
Timing gun
Wire Strippers
RS232 cable
EasySync USB to RS232 converter (if Laptop does not have RS232)
A pair of small jewellers screwdrivers ( flat bladed ) for removing Pins from econoseal plugs ( one to lift holding clip - one to push pin out )
Liquid paper for marking Crank / TDC point

I'd add:
Can of carb cleaner for testing for air leaks
A note pad and click pencil for taking notes of what you have and haven't done, datalog names, msq file names etc
A decent battery charger that will provide a good charge overnight
A roll of electrical tape
Some short-ish bits of wire for making test leads (in combination with electrical tape ;D)

I'm sure we'll think of more.

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: Agriv8 on April 10, 2007, 11:33:04 PM

insulting tape - yeah id umed and ahhed about that one :)

one more

Lables and pen to wrap around wires so you dont forget whats - what.
Fuses car and vems
USB pen drive for backing up MSQ and Logs ?

Oh msut have my list head on today what about a TLA ( three leter acronimn ) list of engine and ecu related facts

TDC
ECU
EFI
AFM
TPS
+VE
-VE

Could be a big list If we think its a good idea will start a new topic tomorow with meanings

regards

Agriv8

Title: Re: Where 2 by A Timing gun that works with Waisted spark coils
Post by: [email protected] on April 11, 2007, 12:05:27 AM

Spare battery

Fire Extinguisher

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