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Technical => Triggering => Topic started by: turbols1 on December 16, 2013, 06:35:54 PM

Title: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on December 16, 2013, 06:35:54 PM
I need some help setting up the vems trigger settings for a Ls1 v8 with a turbo. The reluctor wheel is a 24 tooth and a single tooth cam trigger. Any help would be awesome.
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: gunni on December 16, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
So is this reluctor cam mounted or crank mounted?

Below would be a starting point.
Then do a trigger log and report back.
(http://i.imgur.com/vtEG8yG.png)
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on December 16, 2013, 11:06:23 PM
The 24 tooth is on the crank and and the single pulse is on the cam.
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: gunni on December 17, 2013, 09:27:58 AM
replace 24 with 48 above and 3 with 6, and the trigger gaps will have 6 teeth between them

Also the trigger tooth width is 15deg.
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on December 17, 2013, 10:20:28 AM
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: mattias on January 16, 2014, 10:51:52 PM
Is the the GM/chevrolet 24+1 trigger well supported and tested with recent firmwares?
I have a dude who is thinking about putting VEMS on a GM V8 4.8 litre, and he was around when support for this trigger type was developed and feels a bit weary about it and would rather have 36-1 simple and tried.

In the above primary trigger setings, the "RPM filter" should not have to be enabled.
Also in the secondary trigger dialog, the "LS1 forgiving" should be enabled due to race conditions between the trigger signals.

Please provide triggerlog when you start this one up!
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on June 02, 2014, 11:08:01 PM
here the trigger log i havent had it running yet.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P9gxkp2el10/U4z0_yhA0XI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/GbCctLAroeU/w653-h496-no/ls1+24-1.png)
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on June 02, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
does this look ok?
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: mattias on June 03, 2014, 01:55:15 AM
I think you missed the comments from gunni, just above.
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on June 03, 2014, 11:26:04 AM
this is with the above settings.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MUYU1d3Lcvs/U42hur1o8ZI/AAAAAAAAAUo/xvHwROyRTDg/w666-h506-no/triggerlogsam4.png)
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: mattias on June 03, 2014, 11:37:18 PM
Looks better.
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on June 11, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
double post, removed; see: http://www.vemssupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,2299.msg22326.html#msg22326
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on June 12, 2014, 11:48:23 PM
The car back fires and will not start ->  This is the link for file sharing I posted.

http://vems.hu/vemstune/sharingcenter/reports.php?cmd=view&key=TzxPkh
Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: VEMS on June 13, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
Hello Turbols,

Perhaps you missed my hints in your other topic:

Quote from: VEMS on June 12, 2014, 03:27:39 PM

Just wire two coils, which fire 360 crank degrees apart, to one ignition output and select the proper firing order/setup the proper output sequence in "Base setup->Ignition outputs visual"
Make sure to confirm your timing and firing order with timing light.


Did you confirm engine timing and firing order with timing light before anything else ? Make sure you have no power to injectors by removing INJ fuse when setting up the base timing.

Best regards, Dave

Title: Re: Ls1 v8 primary and secondary trigger settings for vems v3.
Post by: turbols1 on June 18, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
      Its running! I already had the cylinders paired correctly. The problem was we were 180 off on firing.  I swapped the outputs in the ignition output settings and got tdc correct on cylinder 1. It seems to have some trigger interference intermittently while running though. I believe its from the secondary trigger being so close with the primary at a certain pick up point. I am going to try and run the engine with no cam sync since i'm running wasted spark I should be able to do this. Thank you for your help.