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VEMS => Software => Topic started by: Seight-v8 on January 02, 2011, 09:31:22 PM

Title: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 02, 2011, 09:31:22 PM
hello all,

Was bored today with nothing to do so thought i would try and do something with my vems & gps.

I found a way to use the built in gps receiver on my nokia n85 mobile phone and bluetooth.

I got i connected in vemstune, and it shows all the gps information, and the map is showing my location.

This looks like a nice feature that most people could use without knowing it...

Just thought i would post and if anyone else want to try it let me know.

I cant test drive it at the mo, as my winter upgrades are in progress...and its going to be summer before it get to use it.

Regards

scott


cheers

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: gunni on January 02, 2011, 09:45:05 PM
Please do explain that,
I´ve got GPS on my nokia and wouldn´t mind having that possible feature
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 02, 2011, 10:09:23 PM
hiya,

well if you have bluetooth on your laptop also, with the built in gps receiver on your phone you can get vemstune to use the gps data.

you will need to go here and download the file extgps for your phone.

http://www.symarctic.com/beta/static.php?page=extgps_download (http://www.symarctic.com/beta/static.php?page=extgps_download)

send the file to your phone and install it, run it and click yes to using extgps twice.

then you will need to make a new bluetooth connection to your phone using the extgps as a service, this should then give you a com port number.

when connected to your phone using bluetooth use the comm port number in vemstune gps settings, and set a 9600 speed.

you can then set the gps screen in vemstune from the view-group menu, then you can click the gps icon to starting using the positioning.

you can look here for more help.

http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/10/22/how-to-share-the-gps-in-your-n95-with-your-laptop-via-bluetooth-in-linux/ (http://www.simplehelp.net/2008/10/22/how-to-share-the-gps-in-your-n95-with-your-laptop-via-bluetooth-in-linux/)

regards

scott

Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: gunni on January 02, 2011, 10:38:50 PM
I got it, but can´t seem to get a lock on my n97 mini.

But i´m not exactly outside . I´ll give it some more go though
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 02, 2011, 10:50:50 PM
might be a problem with the longitude readings in vemstune....as mine shows -0.683 in the window......but my phone shows 1.318....

when i connect the phone on com6....under the gps connection the longitude readings are correct....but they are not correct in the gps screen, so may be a bug.

Othewise the connection method works fine, and should be a cheap gps option for most people, dare say you could use a usb gps reciever the same way too.

Took me a few hrs to work it out and cant wait to try it driving....but i've got a long wait till summer....

I am using latest vemestune 22-12-10....so maybe someone else can try older versions to see if they are better.

scott

Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: gunni on January 03, 2011, 12:02:09 AM
It works,
but it´s saying I´m quite far away from where I am in reality.

Not sure if it´s the map or the data.
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 03, 2011, 12:06:43 AM
same as me then.....will try older version of vemstune tomorrow...

Otherwise looks like a bug in the longitude readings.

if your check your gps coordinates in your phone, they will be correct.....just in vemstune....latitude is correct, longitude is wrong....

glad you got it working though.

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 03, 2011, 03:08:26 PM
went out today in my tintop with my netbook to test the vems & gps.....

Connected vems & the gps on my phone and took a log in vemstune...

But as i thought there must be a problem the way vemstune is logging the GPS signal...

As my picture shows i travelled through the sea.....hmmm.

How can i check the readings that vemstune is logging????

(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab319/seight-v8/Westfield%20Kit%20Car/VemstuneGPS.jpg)

Can anyone help?

thanks

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: ranz on January 04, 2011, 10:39:19 PM
One other problem with the VEMS and GPS (not same as the topic, but I don´t want to make new one for that).
I have Lenovo S10 (model: 11G3G - type: 4239-2RG) laptop and it has built in GPS. It works with Garmin and I use my laptop as navigator, but the Vemstune doe´s not recognice the GPS reciever.
I have tested different baud rates, but it still doe´s not recognice it, what to test? to change?
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: gunni on January 05, 2011, 10:34:20 AM
It has to report on a com port?
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: ranz on January 05, 2011, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: gunni on January 05, 2011, 10:34:20 AM
It has to report on a com port?
Yes, it´s on COM6 on my computer.
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 09, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
ranz,

this may help you.

Go to the control panel -> Location and Other Sensors and enable the Broadcom GPS location sensor.
Also check in the "Change user settings" to allow everyone access to the sensor

then try a free gps application like....visualgps....and if works in there...then vems will use it.

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: ranz on January 09, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Seight-v8 on January 09, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
Go to the control panel -> Location and Other Sensors
I do not have such menu there...
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 10, 2011, 07:35:18 PM
well try the free gps software first and get that working.

as long as your device puts out a nmea stream of data it should work.

Just make sure you can use it in other software first.

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: ranz on January 10, 2011, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Seight-v8 on January 10, 2011, 07:35:18 PM
well try the free gps software first and get that working.

as long as your device puts out a nmea stream of data it should work.

Just make sure you can use it in other software first.

scott
As I already wrote, it works with my garmin windows navigtor, I use it almoust every day.
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 22, 2011, 10:52:57 AM
i now got my GPS position correct by altering section-gpsdata.ini and calculating the error between vemstune & my gps position.

I've also changed the k/ph reading to mph so i can understand it better.

Just means altering the knots to k/ph reading to mph and changing the gauge in vemstune.

easy.....hmmmm
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 22, 2011, 04:42:06 PM
got the maps working now....

Suddenly thought i could also use my mobile phone for the internet....so using joikuspot to share the mobile web to my netbook.

So now i can use the GPS & web from my phone to my netbook to work with vems......

result.....

Just need to get my engine back together for some serious logging and tuning.....roll on summer....

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Sprocket on February 20, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
Has anyone seen this?

http://www.bytefusion.com/products/op/usb-gps/usb-gps.htm

reasonable price too.
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on February 21, 2011, 10:05:05 AM
yes, ive just bought the serial (DB9 & PS/2) version of this unit......

I've ran it with my PC and its a good unit, even locks on in the house.

I've bought the BD9 & PS/2 version as the new v1.1.89 shows it can log directly from the serial port either when laptop is not connected or on the second com port.

i've also just fitted the removal SD card for logging, which works a treat.

As i hopefully plan to log most of my drives with GPS this year, without having my netbook attached.....

Either way i think you can get smaller GPS units but the one i got fits my purpose.

I got the evermore GM-R700 unit.

http://www.evermoregps.ca/ (http://www.evermoregps.ca/)

scott
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Sprocket on February 08, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
Quote from: Seight-v8 on February 21, 2011, 10:05:05 AM


I got the evermore GM-R700 unit.

http://www.evermoregps.ca/ (http://www.evermoregps.ca/)



Just bought one ;D

It was available on ebay from within the UK and since I already have a bit of a paypal balance anyway it made sense ;D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sirf-3-GPS-RECEIVER-Serial-RS232-RS-232-DB9-GMR-700-A-/110777554788?pt=UK_CE_GPS_Accessories_Software_ET&hash=item19cadb5764
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Sprocket on January 29, 2016, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: Seight-v8 on January 22, 2011, 10:52:57 AM
i now got my GPS position correct by altering section-gpsdata.ini and calculating the error between vemstune & my gps position.

I've also changed the k/ph reading to mph so i can understand it better.

Just means altering the knots to k/ph reading to mph and changing the gauge in vemstune.

easy.....hmmmm

Wow, 4 years! haha

Anyway, dusted off the GPS receiver, made adapter cable from PS2 to USB for the power, and got this working, but alas I too have an incorrect Longitude position.

Any more detailed explanation on how you resolved this please?........... I currently have an Error Report on the go
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 30, 2016, 08:48:46 AM
wow, glad someone else has got it working, not sure how many people ever used this feature in VEMS, but I always thought it was a great feature.

Never got it working over firmware 1.1.89 though, which firmware are you using.

here is how to fix it for the time being, as there is an error in the location, I asked vems to fix it 2-3 years back, so good luck with it.

Find this file in the vems directory.

section-gpsdata.ini

open it up in wordpad.

look for this line and change it for the line below.

longitudeDec   =   {  floorLong + ( longitude - floorLong )  / 60  * 100 -3.02653 }

then save the file and exit wordpad.

Load your vemstune and you should have a -3.02653 offset in the longitude gps, which should put your position correct.

Keep a copy of the file you changed, as everytime you load a new vemstune you will need to copy it back.

Not using my vems at the moment, as my v8 is getting another re-build due to it dropping a liner, hopefully back on the road this summer though, good luck and hope it all works for you.

Keep me posted about the error report and I hope they do fit it this time.

regards

scott

Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Sprocket on January 30, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
That's a great help! But, there is clearly something funky going on in VemsTune. That correction value seems to put me in the Irish sea :o

Its funny because the GPS comms config window shows the real GPS position, so it is down to how VemsTune is calculating away from raw data.

I'll have a play with it and post back :)
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Sprocket on January 30, 2016, 12:01:11 PM
OK so I 'tuned' the error correction for me to -0.66676 and I'm no longer getting my feet wet ;D
Title: Re: vems & gps
Post by: Seight-v8 on January 30, 2016, 12:44:25 PM
Great, glad it worked, I used to drive around in the north Sea before I corrected it.....

Just hope they truly fix it this time.

Regards

Scott