So i thought i would try firmware V1.1.70.
But i cannot get the fuel pump to work on this version, its enabled on channel 5, but just wont work.
Tried other output channels and just the same.
So went back to V1.1.64....and fuel pump is now working again.
I've looked everywhere i can...and have no answer...
Anyone with some ideas....or just stick with V1.1.64.
cheers
scott
Sounds like a conflict to me. Is this Ign channel 5 or P259 channel 5?
Look in output->Assign output channels to check for conflicts. I noticed that 1.1.70 did some strange things when I upgraded too.
I had problem to assign P259 outputs in common output channel table. But directly from fuel pump dialogue - it works for me. I suppose it is some already known VT problem.
I had other headaches with 1.1.70 - didn't find the way how to configure Alpha-N. In usual way something goes wrong. It works with involved MAP sensor. MAP correction table was all 0. MAP correction - disabled. I gave up because of limited tuning time and go back to 1.1.53/54.
But in overall 1.1.70 looks promising!
For all who use 1.1.6x it is recommended to migrate to 1.1.70. I even catch problem on my table test Lambda lookup sticks to random value from table. It is dangerous - if your lambda stick on 1.05 at high boost.
Can someone remove "realise" from 1.1.6x topic headline? And may be replace Sticky with this topic? Rob?
Gints
i tried 3 different P259 channels in the end and they where all the same.
I used all the same settings from V1.1.64, and checked them all carefully before i tried to start it.
Still running V1.1.64... for the mo...or should i use V1.1.71....
Sun is out here.....and i really want to try and get this out my garage...where its been for 2 years.....
scott
I hasn't problem with P259 on 1.1.70 - it simply forks after opening 1.1.27 config. So it should also work when opening much newer 1.1.63!
What VT you use?
i am using vemstune 08-03-10...but did try the next one down...and still seemed the same.
When i tried to assign the channels in the outputs tab....and selected the channel i wanted...it stayed for a few seconds then changes back to disabled...so i cant even test it.
As when i click the test mode....all the output channels are greyed out and disabled.
But in the fuel pump settings i have P259 channel 5 shown.....
weird
scott
Yea, table with all channels is buggy for p259, but Fuel pump dialog IMO works!
Can you quantify a bug report so that I can file it?
imho that problem is already fixed in new vemstune. I think next Monday(tomorrow) will be new vemstune available to download.
Thanks for the replies regarding the latest VEMSTune download, a thread has been created here:
http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/index.php/topic,1200.0.html
It would be useful if we could keep this thread to firmware issues and put VEMSTune issues in their specific thread.
still trying to get this 1.1.70 firmware to work with my vems ecu.
But i everytime i turn on the ignition on i get a loud double buzzer like sound coming from the ecu.
Is this normal???...something i need to know about...and how to get rid of it.
cheers
scott
Did you upload a config file after flashing the firmware?
I do get that sound from a relay for my cooling fan when I flash a new firmware and it disappears when the config file is uploaded.
And yes I know that I should remove the fuse for it when flashing but for some reason I forget that fuse all the time.. ;D
yep doesnt matter what i do, only way to get my fuel pump relay to work is go back top V1.1.64.
But that version has a problem with accleration enrichment that i cant alter the settings...as they just go back to zero.
So fo the mo i am stuck between 1.1.64 with tps/accleration problems and 1.1.70 with a non working fuel pump.
so much for driving this thing...its getting frustrating.....
scott
You will not get any help (at least from me) unless you post your 1.1.70 config or a log file (logs created in VT contains the config too).
Use the FileManager directions here to upload on the vems.hu server (create your own MembersPage directory there) :
http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=FileArea
dainiuxsky noted some non-expected behaviours:
*knock system does not work since aprox 1.1.57...58 incluiding 1.1.70 below 7400rpms. Above - works!
*injector fires with two strokes offset comparing to pre 1.1.6x. It is not documented anywhere.
*at cranking dwell sometimes hangs. (I catch it also on stim using 60-2 with no camsync somewhere around 100rpms. Trigger log - perfectly clean)
Gints
Quote from: GintsK on April 17, 2010, 07:03:34 PM
dainiuxsky noted some non-expected behaviours:
*knock system does not work since aprox 1.1.57...58 incluiding 1.1.70 below 7400rpms. Above - works!
*injector fires with two strokes offset comparing to pre 1.1.6x. It is not documented anywhere.
*at cranking dwell sometimes hangs. (I catch it also on stim using 60-2 with no camsync somewhere around 100rpms. Trigger log - perfectly clean)
Gints
- The whole knock system will be refactored completely at some point soon.
- I'm didnt see the injector firing strangely, will check that out, maybe has to do with the reference tooth table? with a 0 on top, you have offset compared to older firmware..
- We catched this dwell problem on low rpm and started working on that on friday, doing more testing at this moment
thanks / Emil
I believe dainiuxsky tried injector firing on Audi 20VT.
At what angle injector group which matches 0 tooth in h2 table should fire in 1.1.70?
Please, if possible, include some improvement injector staging for n/a:
http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/index.php/topic,1144.0.html
Gints
Is the SD Card Logging not working on 1.1.70 fw?
2 weeks ago I was using 1.1.63 fw, now I have 1.1.70 (and also a different SD card and circuit board)
I'm using the same VemsTune (tried 2-5, 3-8, and 4-16 versions ) and trying the same procedures.
The card seems to "Erase" ok, but when I go to "Save" it takes forever, crashes, and sometimes says "not compatible with this firmware"
How do I tell if the card and circuit board is OK, short of converting back to 1.1.63 for a test?
Also, has anyone used the "Launch RPM vs. Road Speed" table?
I tried it today (1.1.70fw, VemsTune 3-8, 4-16) and I can't get it to work in any way.
Looking at the "Disable Launch Curve" box settings:
"Empty" = no rev limit
"TEST" = changes the bottom KM/H table setting to "1", and no rev limit
"Disabled" = changes the bottom KM/H table setting to "0", and no rev limit
I tried all three tests with the Launch Input Active, and Inactive.
Anybody ever have this working?
Quote from: lugnuts on April 22, 2010, 05:16:16 AM
Is the SD Card Logging not working on 1.1.70 fw?
2 weeks ago I was using 1.1.63 fw, now I have 1.1.70 (and also a different SD card and circuit board)
I'm using the same VemsTune (tried 2-5, 3-8, and 4-16 versions ) and trying the same procedures.
The card seems to "Erase" ok, but when I go to "Save" it takes forever, crashes, and sometimes says "not compatible with this firmware"
How do I tell if the card and circuit board is OK, short of converting back to 1.1.63 for a test?
tried sd car with 1.1.70 and logging works.
Is it possible to go from 27 to 70 with same config? I tried it, but no luck so far... it seems that something is adding extra fuel and there is spark retard also.
Tables are the same... but I can not find the tables what are adding the fuel and retarding spark?
Quote from: ranz on April 25, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Is it possible to go from 27 to 70 with same config? I tried it, but no luck so far... it seems that something is adding extra fuel and there is spark retard also.
Tables are the same... but I can not find the tables what are adding the fuel and retarding spark?
maybee launch control?
Check cold ign retard option.
And check warmup enrichment.
Quote from: MWfire on April 25, 2010, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: ranz on April 25, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Is it possible to go from 27 to 70 with same config? I tried it, but no luck so far... it seems that something is adding extra fuel and there is spark retard also.
Tables are the same... but I can not find the tables what are adding the fuel and retarding spark?
maybee launch control?
Check cold ign retard option.
And check warmup enrichment.
Launch control does not work, with 27 it shows active input (0V) but with 70 it does not, invert or not, it´s not working.
Warmup is the same as in 27, also could ignition retard is around 1 degree... but it has some 7 degrees difference.
Quote from: ranz on April 25, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: MWfire on April 25, 2010, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: ranz on April 25, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Is it possible to go from 27 to 70 with same config? I tried it, but no luck so far... it seems that something is adding extra fuel and there is spark retard also.
Tables are the same... but I can not find the tables what are adding the fuel and retarding spark?
maybee launch control?
Check cold ign retard option.
And check warmup enrichment.
Launch control does not work, with 27 it shows active input (0V) but with 70 it does not, invert or not, it´s not working.
Warmup is the same as in 27, also could ignition retard is around 1 degree... but it has some 7 degrees difference.
tooth widht?
Can you send whole config?
http://ranz.planet.ee/v3.3_n002217-2010.04.24-20.55.09.msq
ranz: better would be to post your .vemscfg or .vemslog instead for 1.1.70. That way it's much easier to open, with just a recent VemsTune.
I dont have version 70 conf on this computer, olnly conf for 27: LINK (http://ranz.planet.ee/audi200.vemscfg)
Quote from: ranz on April 25, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Is it possible to go from 27 to 70 with same config? I tried it, but no luck so far... it seems that something is adding extra fuel and there is spark retard also.
Tables are the same... but I can not find the tables what are adding the fuel and retarding spark?
I won't spend any time on supporting 1.1.27.
I'm looking for a .vemscfg of 1.1.74 (which is the latest firmware).
You should upgrade again, and get a vemslog of the behaviour you're describing and let us help you with that.
So on we go to 1.1.74 Reports: http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/index.php/topic,1229.0.html