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VEMS => Software => Topic started by: dnb on October 16, 2009, 06:43:07 AM

Title: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on October 16, 2009, 06:43:07 AM
I am using the latest VT (10/9/2009) and it will not talk to any of the 3 ECUs on my bench.

Megatune, however talks happily to all 3.  (2 are running 1.1.59 and the 3rd is 1.1.44.  Yes, I have a good v3ini file for 1.1.59 on MT :) )

I use Prolific USB to serial converters.  All the drivers were updated yesterday which broke everything for a while, but now it's all right again with the very latest drivers.  My GPS device and converters are fully functional with everything but VT.  My historic Subaru software (from win9x days before USB was established and serial ports were real things) even works.

I therefore conclude the problem is lurking somewhere in VEMStune or relates to my inability to use VEMStune.  From the logs, it looks like VT never tries anything other than 9600 baud to talk to the ECU.  But when I force an ECU to 9600 baud using 'ManmcB67bye' it makes no difference.  (Megatune responds as expected)

I am out of ideas now.  Do I need to upgrade any software that Vemstune relies on?   
And what log files would the developers find useful?  I can't be the only one with this problem, can I?

Thanks
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on October 16, 2009, 03:24:48 PM
I have got the same exact problem
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on October 16, 2009, 04:46:52 PM
I don't feel so alone now ;)

Do you have a 1.1.62 MS v3ini file, and would you consider checking my 1.1.59 version? :)

Thanks
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: [email protected] on October 16, 2009, 05:27:54 PM
Dave, please post your ini file I'd like to test it on my bench unit at some point.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on October 16, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
Will do Rob.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on October 17, 2009, 02:23:59 AM
Here's my ini file for Megatune 1.1.59

http://www.aqyz05.dsl.pipex.com/vemsv3.zip

There are a couple of issues where I don't know what units some things are in, so they are in raw integers (0 to 255) but other than that, it should be OK.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on October 17, 2009, 03:05:52 AM
This happens with all the firmwares I have tested using vemstune,
Of course never with megatune.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: Sambas on October 17, 2009, 02:44:03 PM
Just tested 10-2 release on vista business sp2 and ftdi adapter and got it working. There is one bug that you can't use COM3, missing from ecu config ports list. Port timeout I had to put 10 and use webtool to download used firmware, 1.1.61 in this case. If you need to use com3 the you can manually put it in v3gui.cfg file or change it in device manager.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on October 18, 2009, 06:19:33 AM
I have just tested VT on a borrowed XP desktop with real serial ports (same files that my laptop installed from).  It works fine.  I am going to use the USB thingies now.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on October 19, 2009, 12:08:15 AM
I have concluded that Prolific USB to serial converters are a work of evil.  They don't work with Vemstune, but the FTDI ones do.

Therefore, don't buy prolific chips to use with VEMS!  (Or Emerald for that matter, but that's another story ;) )
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on October 19, 2009, 12:42:51 AM
So where you able to get passed with by going with a difference usb adapter or replacing the drivers.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: Arvid on October 27, 2009, 01:37:30 AM
I have vista and use Sunsway USB Serial Port Adapter RS-232, and the driver from the manufacturer. (http://www.vems.hu/files/ArvidOlausen/Usb%20driver/Win_Vista.zip). It works well for vemstune! :) The driver who is on vems.hu (PL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_10311.zip) work on megatune but not the vemstune. My PC has Core2Duo processor so I had to use imagecfg.exe to patch exe files to always only use 1 processor.  :)
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on October 27, 2009, 06:39:40 AM
Just tried the latest vemstune download,

And this has not been resolved yet.

If megatune works, so should vemstune.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: paul_f on October 27, 2009, 07:02:34 PM
I couldn't get the latest version of Vemstune to connect at all, just garbage was displayed.  The previous version worked okay with my adaptor 

I have gone back to megatune for now
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on November 03, 2009, 04:40:57 AM
Sambas on anybody on the development team.

When will this problem be fixed?

It´s not going to be possible to use .62 which has been published without making vemstune work
with more serial drivers.

Edit.

Tried it on my gf´s laptop.

Same vemstune software, both real serial port and USB one, no problems on hers.
It runs XP.

Mine with the same usb driver, same vemstune, same actual adapter but running Windows 7 and it has problems.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on November 03, 2009, 06:23:56 AM
I am working on a 1.1.62 Megatune ini file.  I hope to have it finished & tested by the end of the week - I need it to do logging on my car.  Vemstune isn't stable for more than 5 minutes with the engine running (but OK with it off), but Megatune is OK regardless.

My 1.1.59 ini file seems OK for the standard config bits, but has an issue with logging lambda due to a change in the way it is reported by the ECU. 
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on November 03, 2009, 06:48:23 AM
I wonder if we could actually create a Tunerstudio .ini file for 1.1.62?

Cause it´s just miles better then megatune.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on November 03, 2009, 05:38:03 PM
I just spoke to Phil Tobin again about tunerstudio,

And it seems he´s still going to make TS work with Vems, even if he needs to make a special version of TS to run with
Vems.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: dnb on January 25, 2010, 06:11:36 AM
I have just tried the latest version of Vemstune (2010-08-01) and it's back to its old tricks with the Prolific drivers.  Reverting to the previous version solves the problem.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: badjuju on March 30, 2010, 05:35:36 AM
I'm having the same problem.  My old machine running winxp will connect just fine, but my in dash computer using win7 will not connect.
Title: Re: VEMStune doesn't connect on Vista laptop.
Post by: gunni on March 30, 2010, 05:38:17 AM
It´s very likely a Win 7 problem. I had that before.