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Offline rob@vems.co.uk

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 02:18:34 pm »
Was that Skyline running 1.1.44 then?

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 01:15:41 pm »
Ok, so I've checked the cams now. They where fine in relation to each other but they where off by maybe 15degrees to the crank :o
I can't believe I missed that the last time i checked it, I wonder if I was stupid enough to only look at the cams that time.
However I have now redone it the right way and should be able to test it soon.
Hope it runs a lot better now, atleast I have one less problem ;D

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2009, 05:56:39 pm »
Was that Skyline running 1.1.44 then?

No 1.1.18.
The BMW´s where all running 1.1.44 and 60-2

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 06:40:42 pm »
Oh, ok. Seems like there's no one running the nissan 24+1 trigger with firmware 1.1.44 then :-\.
I think I'm forced to go with the 1.1.18 and get it up running before I'll try any newer firmware. I have enough trouble sources anyway.
Thanks for the info.

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2009, 09:07:30 pm »
My 200sx (ca18det) is running 1.1.44 with 24+1 trigger and BOSCH wastespark coil.
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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2009, 09:40:47 pm »
Oh, nice Assa :) could i maybe get an .msq file from you so I can compare our settings?

Now with the cams in the right position the compression tester showed 160psi compared to 110 before, so that was good news ;D Factory manual says that it should be between 151-175psi. But I also have 9:1 instead of original 9.5:1 comp so I think 160 is great.

Got it to idle somewhat good today, alot less missfire than before but I still have a little more missfire than normal and still having problems with the spark angle not being very consistant. The engine rev went up and down between 900-1100rpm and when you look with the timing gun the spark angle increased/decreased as the rew went up and down. I will get the loggfile up in a little while.
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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2009, 11:08:43 pm »
Found an interesting thread!
http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/index.php/topic,323.0.html

Maybe this is part of my problem as im running triggertooth 6?
Will change it to 2 or 3 and test it tomorrow :-)

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2009, 04:07:25 pm »

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 06:07:21 pm »
Try the original 1.1.18 trigger settings.

And fix your h[1] table.
I don´t understand the whole h[1] well enough to tell you exactly what it should be like.
But it´s possible that your figures are indeed wrong and you may be igniting well wrong.

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2009, 12:31:11 am »
Yeeeeees! The car is now idling very nice!
Changed "Trigger tooth" to 2 and set the "Angular width of tooth" to 30 instead of 6 and it idles so smooth now.
I'm a very happy fellow now! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks everyone!

Offline rob@vems.co.uk

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2009, 01:11:51 am »
PICTURES!!!  ;D

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2009, 02:39:22 pm »
Yes sir!

Here's a little spec list first:
Ka24de 
*Holset HX55 Turbo (compressorwheel small dia 63mm and large dia 98mm)
*1000cc injectors topfeed low impedance
*Intercooler 24x12x4
*(PRS 8 Standalone engine management) Now I'm running VEMS instead with a V3 harness (Firmware 1.1.44)
*New triggerwheel for the CAS(24+1)
*HKS 50mm wastegate (Copy)
*Forged rods (Eagle)
*Forged pistons (Wiseco)
*ARP Head Bolts
*ACL Main and Rod bearings
*MAP sensor(4bar)
*New fuelrail
*JGS customs RB20 lightweight flywheel
*JWT clutchcover and disc(the disc was an exedy)
*Honda CBR 600RR F4i coils with new thicker cables
*4 inch airfilter
*4 inch downpipe to 3 inch exhaust system. 
*MSD DIS 4+ (Broken at the moment :( )
*Sparkplugs (Bosch of some kind)

And some random build pics:






















Enjoy ;D
« Last Edit: April 27, 2009, 02:42:33 pm by Niclas_AB »

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2009, 03:00:47 pm »
Awesome ,
get it tuned and get back with some logs of the HX55 spooling :)

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2009, 09:09:11 pm »
Well, maybe next week or the week after that.
First I have to put back a few things like the seats, front and hood  :)
Then my plan was to first get it going without boost to get to know everything.
But I will make sure to update this thread with my results. 

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Re: 200sx with a Ka24de(t)
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2009, 10:18:31 pm »
This is going to be a monster, if you get boost, before redline  ;)

What kind of boost are you planning on running?



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