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Offline laine_16v

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Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« on: March 27, 2009, 02:41:52 am »
Thought it was about time i wrote something up here, as i came barging onto the forum with lots of problems lol!

Heres the spec thats been built...

Cylinder Head:

Meagnne F7R Cylinder head (33mm inlet valves as standard)
Catcam 55502320 (11.75mm Lift * 278 degree)
Catcam Truelock Vernier Pulleys
D.T.I Vernier Setup
Catcam GOLD uprated Valve srpings and retainers
A.P.D (www.ap-developments.com) headwork, and inlet manifold port matching.
De-lipped inlet valves
New Bosch 289cc Injectors

Chadil short meganne DCOE manifold
Parralel Jenvey 45 individual throttle bodies.
90mm Air Horns
Custom fibreglass airbox blackplate
Pipercross C603d Sausage Air filter

Cylinder Block

2.0 F7R A700 Williams Block
Forged JE 11:1 High Compression piston
New JE Proseal piston rings (with Ring end gap ground to specification)
JE Forged H section Con Rods and ARP bolts
Cylinder block deck height adjust to the pistons, and bores honed.
New Main and Big end bearings
Meganne 60-2 Trigger pattern Flywheel and Clio 172 Crank sensor.

Misc:

Custom short aluminium radiator and fan setup to allow longer trumpets.
13 Row Oil cooler and thermostatic sandwhich plate
Vems Genboard v3.3 (1.0.73) and custom made loom

and probably a few other things ive missed off...


Expecting 220-225bhp.

Started the project last June, and done it slowly, over the course of just under a year. Had many problems i thought id have a crack at building the bottom end myself (never done anythign like it before), and bent a few pistons rings. Annoying when you can only buy the set at a time, from america (takes a month to get here), and cost 140 quid a pop!

Other than that it seems to be running fine, only just got the engine running within the last few weeks, had it working, then decided to packup and not work. Lots of head scratching and a new loom later and its working perfect again.

Heres a quick vid of it running..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFhMbFF2hw

Currently has the WORST oil leak ive ever seen (again due to my rather hilarious engine building skills ;))

Having the car Mapped by Craig @ APD, when all the issues have been sorted, currently running an old map from someone else. Having a few issues with the acceleraction enrichment, as it sttuters a bit if you jab the throttle. Any questions e.t.c fire away :)

Some random pics of the build...














« Last Edit: March 27, 2009, 02:53:10 am by laine_16v »

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2009, 03:44:34 am »
Stuttering on a throttle jab... There's been a load of acceleration enrichment development on the newer firmware versions.

There's some pissenating about to do though...

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2009, 07:30:04 am »
My mapper richened up a little the low end of the map just above idle, improved things alot, but not so as to affect any drivablity. The area that was richened is not normaly used while driving so you can add a little more of the acceleration enrichment fuel in that part of the map. I have yet to look at the new acceleration enrichment tables, which will be a big improvement

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2009, 01:42:43 pm »
Im going to leave it to Craig who is mapping my car to sort it all, as if im honest i dont really know much about altering values of tables e.t.c in VEMS

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2009, 04:34:37 pm »
Good work there, glad to hear you finally got the ECU side sorted, shall be a fun toy when it's mapped.  You have any full car pics?  Always wanted a clio williams.  I had the renault 19 16v 3door and loved it.  The only problem I had was the stupid stiff clutch which is on every 16v renault of that era lol

-Gavin

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2009, 04:53:07 pm »
Good work there, glad to hear you finally got the ECU side sorted, shall be a fun toy when it's mapped.  You have any full car pics?  Always wanted a clio williams.  I had the renault 19 16v 3door and loved it.  The only problem I had was the stupid stiff clutch which is on every 16v renault of that era lol

-Gavin

Yeah heres a couple of pics for you mate...

I've got the williams widetrack conversion on my valver too :) Ive got a soft spot for the 19 16v's too but gotta be a phase 1 for me. Thing is with my clutch, im now using a Meganne flywheel, and therefore a meganne clutch and its soft as hell comapred to a normal valver clutch! its really weird  :S






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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2009, 11:09:08 pm »
Random pictures of me pissing around with air filter / trumpets / backplate, i need a grinder or hacksaw to make it fit, but dont have one to hand yet so can only fit 3 trumpets :P

Very happy with how it runs / sounds. It will start from cold without even a touch of the throttle pedal and sits at 800rpm. Engine sounds sweet as a nut even from stone cold too, no knocks or smoke (but cmon i wasnt expecting that anyway :P). Just need to get it all sorted and MOT'd within 2 weeks...








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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2009, 04:51:58 pm »
Quick vid of me being a hooligan  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giSD3MG4qcc

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 11:56:05 pm »
crap, was testing some relays i think i had it wired the wrong way, triggered it, but i think it shorted the battery while the ignition was on.

Now im not getting any cranking signals :( I think i smoked the P259 :( :(

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 02:04:53 am »
Two quick questions:
Still got normal function in the ECU guages reading correctly?  Pump still priming?

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 02:11:34 am »
Two quick questions:
Still got normal function in the ECU guages reading correctly?  Pump still priming?

Yeah all other ECU dials in megatune work fine, no crank signal, not even trigger errors now. Nada nothing.

Fuel pump relay was the one i was trying to sort when i fucked up, so not sure if that works, i will investigate tommorow when theres daylight, not happy lol :( but only myself to blame this time.

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 02:14:36 am »
Well at least you drove the car under its own power, so you know that things are all pretty much in order.  As long as no one lost an eye everything else is fixable.

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 02:32:17 am »
Well since then i have...............

Driven over my bonnet and wrecked it completely...

Destroyed my oil cooler by shearing a union compeltely off it.

My mate has wrecked my brand new air filter by cahtching a drill on it and wripping a giant chunk of foam of it.

At least my ECU seems to be working now, and should be on its way back to me now :)

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Re: Mk1 Clio 16v, High Comp 2.0 F7R, Individual Throttle Bodies.
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2009, 09:19:15 pm »
MOT'd and Insured today, just got to Tax it on tuesday.

Ive had about 30 minutes driving time in it, and its stupidly quick.... even with this old map on it, going to be absolutely savage when remapped!

Shame i have to pull it all apart again, although it sounds very healthy it has oil pressure problems and will only hold 2 bar pressure flat out :(