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Offline bob3825

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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2009, 05:46:30 am »
Was just wondering if this grounding is ok, of course the ecu factory grounds will go into the other side of this metal part and the sensor grounds in the part cut and everything will be soldered


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Offline rob@vems.co.uk

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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2009, 03:44:13 pm »
Thats Looking okay
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2009, 06:00:23 pm »
Ok great now i'll get to connecting VEMS because i'm having some serial to usb problems but hope i could get around them
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2009, 04:53:09 am »
Today i got vems connected and tested it with succes and everything, and connected everything up, but i need some help in the configuration

1- i need help in configuring the injectors as they are connected now on the vehicle as pairs because i have no idea how to in mega tune
2- i need someone to review my msq file so i can turn over the car safely

here is the msq, its 1.0.73 version firmware and 16x14 maps
http://rapidshare.com/files/196141419/Lanos_no_turbo_1_first_run_.msq.html
« Last Edit: February 10, 2009, 05:08:43 am by bob3825 »
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2009, 05:43:10 am »
Where did you get your base config from?
Are the injectors wired in pairs with the original loom?
Have you calibrated your Wideband sensor?  Please make sure for start-up tests that you don't have any fuel going into the car so either disconnect the injector's connectors, or, remove the injector's fuse.  And for the first tests I'd have the coil disconnected.

The tests I'd do are:
Check fuel pump primes correctly.
Check your battery settings
Check the operation of the throttle position sensor
Check the air and water sensors
Crank the engine without sparks or fuel
If a steady sensible RPM speed is seen, connect the ignition pack and use a timing light to verify the ignition timing.
If all of these tests go correctly, connect up the injectors and try cranking the car.
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Offline bob3825

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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2009, 06:00:47 am »
actually my base config is from scratch, the injectors are wired in pairs 1&4 and 2&3

i actually have no idea about the config and tables files, do i have to burn them to the controller or is burning the msq file enough or what exactly?
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2009, 06:45:34 am »
ok i cranked the car now with no fuel or spark and the car read rpm correctly at about 200-210 rpm while cranking and i calibrated tps and it reads ok, i have a question, if i connect fuel and spark and no wideband, can i crank the car and start

also please review my spark map i have no idea about it
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2009, 08:01:28 am »
just to update i connected the fuel pump and it primes ok, and i connected everything except the injectors and it was great till the point i got no spark??? is this related to ignition settings or trigger settings so i can trace it down
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2009, 07:20:32 pm »
Rob, i need a bit of help with the firmware, i now acquired two config.txt files and tables.txt for a similar setup as mine, but i need a bit of help as what to do with them, note that the config are from a genboard 3.1
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2009, 10:23:27 pm »
What are you having problems with and why use those configs?
Is there anything you aren´t able to fill in the software from ground that is in the configs?
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2009, 10:40:38 pm »
i don't even know what to do with the config, i have filled in the msq file but the problem now is i'm not getting spark, so i thought it was something to do with the config file
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2009, 11:19:52 pm »
Can you post your timing sensor system ?
30-1 , 60-2 , cam/crank on the camshaft?

Then post your msq.

Are you getting RPM readings?
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #57 on: February 11, 2009, 12:32:22 am »
my wheel is a crank wheel with 60-2 and its a vr sensor
and rpm reading is about 200-220 while cranking
i measured now the angle between the missing teeth and the tdc tooth (tooth 19) is about 100 deg and about 90 between the tdc tooth and the vr sensor which is supposed to be 40-60 as per the manual

here is the msq file
http://rapidshare.com/files/196461123/Lanos_no_turbo_1_first_run_.msq.html
« Last Edit: February 11, 2009, 12:36:31 am by bob3825 »
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #58 on: February 11, 2009, 01:12:33 am »
1.0.73 12x12 Standard?

Your ignition table is upside down.

And your Revlimit is 0 . So at any rpm above that it will cut the spark.
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EDIT.
Wierdly the spark table is upside down in the 2d look , but not in the 3d view.
That is very strange.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2009, 01:18:22 am by gunni »
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Re: Lanos 1.6 (VEMS and turbo on the way)
« Reply #59 on: February 11, 2009, 03:58:15 am »
Okay, first off - spark.
I notice that you have ignition outputs on 33 and 35, you have the 4+4 option:

You need to have the wires connected to 34 and 36 and set the Ignition Outputs correctly.

Rob

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