1.1.44 alpha released

[MWfire]

So far i made 500km on 1.1.44(opel(gm) 60-2 trigger wheel)) whitout problems.

[Sprocket]

First off, Merry Christmas. TV is crap and im visiting the family tomorrow

Im looking at upgrading to this, this week and I have been looking through.

I was a teeny weeny little bit disapointed when looking at the misc outputs that there is still no min and max temperature settings. I thought I had seen this at some point somewhere, and was pleased. Now, again, I have no proper strategy for the emissions purge control

edit

OK I found what I was looking for in 1.1.43. how stable is this compared to 1.1.44, i like the speed sensor and n20 settings

[Sprocket]

Today I have decided to upgrade to this version of firmware, as there still appears to be issues I am not happy with, with other versions. So my thinking was this was a better place to start. It has not been without issues!

After struggling through this with the limited information I could find or follow, I still had to 'wing it' with certain settings, namely, I was unable to get the config switching to work. I did everything that was described in setting up the two MSQ files, but it still only uploaded one MSQ. The LED at the bottom of Magatune indicated the slot for the active config, but the switch just didnt work. I changed the config_enable setting from disable to enable and it worked, but for what ever reason the MSQ files were screwed except for the tables. Not a problem and easy to fix, just anoying after sitting in the car for over an hour in the cold!

Other things I am not sure about, which may be simple, I am just after confirmation. The primary trigger settings are different to those in 1.0.73. The angular width of teeth setting is now a little confusing, not that it wasnt before. I read the F1 help, which says that for 36-1 the angular width should be 10. Is this correct? The line at the very bottom of the help window confuses everything. The setting Megatune threw in there was 193.5, deffo does not sound right at all. Perhaps the reason the engine wouldnt start

Other than that I think i got through everything reasonably well. I was not looking forward to the AIM stream/ Megatune crash thing, which had been said to be fixed, it appears that it was

Oh, the only other thing. I have an LED in red at the bottom right corner of Megatune with three dashes in it, Why?

Edit, and something else I just remembered. In ignition settings, the coil charge time MAP scale. How do I set this up? This may be something else that stopped the engine firing, perhapse I have blown the fuse for the coils?

Edit again, I found this http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/index.php/topic,653.msg6767.html#msg6767


Edit yet again I have been playing around with Megatune. I set the config switch to 195, but when Megatune loads the MSQ it changes it to 199?

[GintsK]

Angular width of tooth setting was confusing in all previous versions. Now it is very straightforward - it means crank angle between two teeth. (yes 10.00 deg for 36-1)  Real angle in most cases except Audi concept where dividing by 3 virtually makes 3 time bigger gap than on real wheel.

Also take a look to reference tooth table. Fill it with 0-18 or 0-18-36-54 with camsync. Backwards - start from bottom! Then check injector staging settings.

Oh, the only other thing. I have an LED in red at the bottom right corner of Megatune with three dashes in it, Why?

It is misfire indicator. Forget it!

Config switch. Check changelog. For first it was possible to change only tables. What input and according values in MT you try to use?

Gints

[Sprocket]

Ok thanks for that.

The two slots configs were not corrupt as i had thought. For whatever reason they all look as they should.

I am still having problems getting the engine to start!! I changed the angular width of the tooth to 10, and every now and then the engine does trie and start but it kicks back. I am now wondering If I have to change any of the other settings. At the moment I have 35 for the number of teeth, 1 as the trigger tooth and 18 as the next trigger tooth, this obviously being a 36 -1 trigger

This is the 1.0.73 config txt



primep=00

primep_temp_scaling=00

cwl=DC

cwh=37

cranking_thres=04

awev=28

awev_temp_scaling=1A

awec=7D

warmup_clt_range[0]=00

warmup_clt_range[1]=00

warmup_clt_range[2]=11

warmup_clt_range[3]=25

warmup_clt_range[4]=50

warmup_clt_range[5]=64

warmup_clt_range[6]=78

warmup_clt_range[7]=8C

warmup_clt_range[8]=AA

warmup_clt_range[9]=C8

warmup_clt[0]=BE

warmup_clt[1]=B9

warmup_clt[2]=C3

warmup_clt[3]=AF

warmup_clt[4]=A5

warmup_clt[5]=91

warmup_clt[6]=87

warmup_clt[7]=7D

warmup_clt[8]=73

warmup_clt[9]=64

warmup_rpm_scale=BF

req_fuel=2E

divider=01

alternate=13

injopen=16

battfac=26

kpafac=8A

kpaoffs=80

injocfuel=32

injrampup_battfac=FF

injpwm=FF

injpwmt=FF

als_launch_input=CC

rpmk[0]=0B

rpmk[1]=B8

tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00

tpsdotrate[0]=03

tpsdotrate[1]=05

tpsdotrate[2]=14

tpsdotrate[3]=28

tpsaq[0]=05

tpsaq[1]=06

tpsaq[2]=11

tpsaq[3]=3C

als_cut_mintps=FF

tpsasync=04

acmult=DC

tpsacold=00

launch_enrich=00

launch_retard=00

overrun_fuelcut=FF

overrun_fuelresume=FF

rev_limit=5A

airden_ignore=55

config11=31

config12=40

config13=16

batt_cal=BF

fastidle=C8

als_max_cut=00

dbaro=0C

tps_low=0B

tps_high=B2

fan_temp=F3

fan_hyst=04

fan_channel=67

iac_step_seq=D8

iac_conf=04

iac_max_steps=B4

iac_tps_thres=03

iac_cold_idle_temp=A2

iac_warm_idle_temp=C6

iac_cold_rpm=78

iac_warm_rpm=5A

iac_cold_start_pos=B4

iac_warm_start_pos=B4

iac_afterstart_rpm=14

iac_afterstart_duration=96

iac_speed=07

iac_kp=28

iac_ki=14

iac_kd=0A

launch_rpm=28

iac_integral_limit_dec=FF

iac_integral_limit_inc=FF

iac_integral_deadband=0A

iac_deadband=0A

als_cut_maxtps=00

iac_overclose_interval=02

iac_ref_pos[0]=B0

iac_ref_pos[1]=AB

iac_ref_pos[2]=9C

iac_ref_pos[3]=8F

iac_ref_pos[4]=7A

iac_ref_pos[5]=6B

iac_ref_pos[6]=5E

iac_ref_pos[7]=52

iac_ref_pos[8]=3D

iac_ref_pos[9]=29

iac_sol_channel=7F

iac_ign_slope=04

softrpm_range=32

iac_ign_advance_limit=28

iac_ign_retard_limit=14

iac_ign_threshold=00

ego_conf=06

ego_lag=01

ego_coolant=CF

ego_maxtps=FF

ego_maxmap=FF

ego_minrpm=07

ego_maxrpm=56

ego_warmup=3C

ego_lean_limit=66

ego_rich_limit=33

ego_pid_kp=28

als_enrich=00

ego_delta=03

ego_target=19

ego_pid_window=FF

wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0

als_react_tps=00

wbo2_abs_limit=E4

wbo2_limit_maxt=A0

wbo2_fallback=B0

wbo2_retry_t=06

wbo2_edgetime_corr=BA

wbo2_edgetime_min=50

wbo2_ri_target=96

wbo2_nernstdc_target=89

wbo2_pump_pw_zero=66

wbo2_calibration=C1

wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46

wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10

wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A

wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80

wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15

wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E

wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00

wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84

wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80

knock_conf=00

knock_sampling_window=F3

knock1_frequency=2C

knock1_gain=00

knock1_integrator=0F

knock2_frequency=2D

knock2_gain=00

knock2_integrator=0F

knock_threshold=FF

knock_noise_scale=FF

knock_max_retard=00

knock_default_retard=00

knock_retard_step=00

knock_retard_delay=00

knock_advance_step=00

knock_advance_delay=00

knock_minrpm=00

knock_maxrpm=00

ve_learn_coolant=D8

ve_learn_max_power=FF

ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E

ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E

ve_learn_ego_scale=43

ve_learn_min_weight=4D

ve_learn_speed=FF

ve_learn_limit=33

ve_learn_conf=00

lcd_c0=FE

lcd_delay=FF

lcd_backlight=FF

kpa_conf=21

ign_balance=00

als_retard_mintps=FF

als_retard_maxtps=00

lcd_default_view=00

primary_trigger=11

secondary_trigger=02

tooth_wheel=23

trigger_tooth=01

another_trigger_tooth=12

crank_minper=30

tooth_wheel_twidth1=03

tooth_wheel_twidth2=06

cam_sync_r_edge_phase=01

cam_sync_f_edge_phase=02

reset_engphase_after=F0

ign_tdcdelay=86

ign_dwell14=17

ign_dwell6=1C

ign_crank_advance=28

ign_out=72

ignchmax=01

engine_off_delay=0F

pump_on_mintime=0B

fuelpump_channel=57

inj_stage2_rate=FF

inj_stage2_start_tps=FF

inj_stage2_start_map=FF

als_deact_rpm=FF

als_deact_time=01

als_deact_egt=00

als_retard=00

als_rev_limit=40

misc1out_minrpm=01

misc1out_maxrpm=5A

misc1out_mintps=00

misc1out_maxtps=FF

misc1out_minmap=00

misc1out_maxmap=FF

misc1out_channel=47

misc2out_minrpm=19

misc2out_maxrpm=23

misc2out_mintps=00

misc2out_maxtps=03

misc2out_minmap=00

misc2out_maxmap=0A

misc2out_channel=6F

act_wot_rpm=55

act_wot_channel=6F

act_rpm_rpm=49

act_rpm_channel=61

egt1_cal=47

als_tks_channel=FF

boost_conf=00

boost_targetoffs=00

boost_minpressure=FF

boost_pid_kp=20

boost_pid_ki=80

boost_pid_kd=11

boost_pid_ilimit=FF

boost_channel=FF

water_pump_temp=B4

hybrid_rpm_a=FF

hybrid_rpm_m=FF

water_pump_hyst=00

water_pump_channel=F0

toothrel_normal=66

toothrel_missing=7F

fuelcut_min_kpa=00

fuelcut_max_kpa=FF

tach_channel=0F

tach_div=10

shiftcut_conf=01

shiftcut_channel=FF

shiftcut_time=00

softrpm_rpm=58

[Sprocket]

And this is the 1.1.44 config txt



# Dump generated from version 1.1.44


primep=00

primep_temp_scaling=00

cwl=D2

cwh=37

cranking_thres=04

awev=28

awev_temp_scaling=1A

awec=7D

shiftcut_potlow=00

shiftcut_pothi=00

shiftcut_retcut=11

boost_matdec=25

boost_egtdec=50

iacref_matslope=F4

shiftcut_minrpm=78

blabla[0]=FF

blabla[1]=FF

blabla[2]=FF

warmup_clt[0]=BE

warmup_clt[1]=B9

warmup_clt[2]=C3

warmup_clt[3]=AF

warmup_clt[4]=A5

warmup_clt[5]=91

warmup_clt[6]=87

warmup_clt[7]=7D

warmup_clt[8]=73

warmup_clt[9]=64

warmup_rpm_scale=BF

req_fuel=2E

divider=01

alternate=13

injopen=16

battfac=26

kpafac=8A

kpaoffs=80

injocfuel=32

injrampup_battfac=FF

injpwm=FF

injpwmt=FF

als_launch_input=CC

rpmk[0]=0B

rpmk[1]=B8

tpsdot_kpadot_conf=FE

tpsdotrate[0]=03

tpsdotrate[1]=05

tpsdotrate[2]=14

tpsdotrate[3]=28

tpsaq[0]=05

tpsaq[1]=06

tpsaq[2]=11

tpsaq[3]=3C

als_cut_mintps=FF

tpsasync=04

acmult=8C

tpsacold=00

launch_enrich=00

launch_retard=00

overrun_fuelcut=FF

overrun_fuelresume=FF

rev_limit=5A

airden_ignore=55

config11=31

config12=40

config13=16

batt_cal=BF

iac2load=C8

als_max_cut=E0

dbaro=0C

tps_low=0B

tps_high=B2

fan_temp=F3

fan_hyst=04

fan_channel=67

iac_step_seq=D8

iac_conf=04

iac_max_steps=B4

iac_tps_thres=03

iac_cold_idle_temp=A2

iac_warm_idle_temp=C6

iac_cold_rpm=78

iac_warm_rpm=5A

iac_cold_start_pos=B4

iac_warm_start_pos=B4

iac_afterstart_rpm=14

iac_afterstart_duration=96

iac_speed=07

iac_kp=28

iac_ki=14

iac_kd=0A

launch_rpm=28

iac_integral_limit_dec=FF

iac_integral_limit_inc=FF

iac_integral_deadband=0A

iac_deadband=0A

als_cut_maxtps=00

confswitch=D7

iac_ref_pos[0]=B0

iac_ref_pos[1]=AB

iac_ref_pos[2]=9C

iac_ref_pos[3]=8F

iac_ref_pos[4]=7A

iac_ref_pos[5]=6B

iac_ref_pos[6]=5E

iac_ref_pos[7]=52

iac_ref_pos[8]=3D

iac_ref_pos[9]=29

iac_sol_channel=7F

iac_ign_slope=04

softrpm_range=4B

iac_ign_advance_limit=28

iac_ign_retard_limit=14

iac_ign_threshold=00

ego_conf=06

ego_lag=01

ego_coolant=CF

ego_maxtps=FF

ego_maxmap=FF

ego_minrpm=07

ego_maxrpm=56

ego_warmup=3C

ego_lean_limit=66

ego_rich_limit=33

ego_pid_kp=28

als_enrich=00

ego_delta=03

ego_target=19

ego_pid_window=FF

wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0

als_react_tps=00

wbo2_abs_limit=E4

wbo2_limit_maxt=A0

wbo2_fallback=B0

wbo2_retry_t=06

als_retard_rpm1=BA

als_retard_rpm2=50

wbo2_ri_target=96

wbo2_nernstdc_target=89

wbo2_pump_pw_zero=66

wbo2_calibration=C1

wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46

wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10

wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A

wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80

wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15

wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E

wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00

wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84

wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80

knock_chan=F0

knock_sampling_window=F3

knock1_frequency=EC

knock1_gain=C0

knock1_integrator=EF

knock2_frequency=ED

knock2_gain=C0

knock2_integrator=EF

knock_threshold=00

knock_noise_scale=00

knock_max_retard=00

knock_default_retard=00

knock_retard_step=00

knock_retard_delay=00

knock_advance_step=00

knock_advance_delay=00

knock_minrpm=00

knock_maxrpm=00

ve_learn_coolant=D8

ve_learn_max_power=FF

ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E

ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E

ve_learn_ego_scale=43

ve_learn_min_weight=4D

ve_learn_speed=FF

ve_learn_limit=33

ve_learn_conf=00

lcd_c0=FA

lcd_delay=FF

lcd_backlight=FF

kpa_conf=21

als_igncut_rpm2=00

als_retard_mintps=FF

als_retard_maxtps=00

lcd_default_view=04

primary_trigger=11

secondary_trigger=02

tooth_wheel=23

trigger_tooth=01

another_trigger_tooth=12

crank_minper=30

tooth_wheel_twidth[0]=00

tooth_wheel_twidth[1]=28

cam_sync_r_edge_phase=01

cam_sync_f_edge_phase=02

reset_engphase_after=F0

ign_tdcdelay=86

ign_dwell14=17

ign_dwellmap=01

ign_crank_advance=28

ign_out=72

ignchmax=01

engine_off_delay=0F

pump_on_mintime=0B

fuelpump_channel=57

inj_stage2_rate=FF

inj_stage2_start_tps=FF

inj_stage2_start_map=FF

als_igncut_rpm1=FF

als_deact_time=01

als_deact_egt=00

als_retard=00

als_rev_limit=40

misc1out_minrpm=01

misc1out_maxrpm=5A

misc1out_mintps=00

misc1out_maxtps=FF

misc1out_minmap=00

misc1out_maxmap=FF

misc1out_channel=47

misc2out_minrpm=19

misc2out_maxrpm=23

misc2out_mintps=00

misc2out_maxtps=03

misc2out_minmap=00

misc2out_maxmap=0A

misc2out_channel=6F

act_wot_rpm=55

act_wot_channel=6F

act_rpm_rpm=49

act_rpm_channel=61

egt1_cal=47

als_tks_channel=FF

boost_conf=00

boost_targetoffs=00

boost_minpressure=FF

boost_pid_kp=20

boost_pid_ki=80

boost_pid_kd=1F

boost_pid_ilimit=FF

boost_channel=FF

water_pump_temp=B4

hybrid_rpm_a=FF

hybrid_rpm_m=FF

water_pump_hyst=00

water_pump_channel=F0

toothrel_normal=66

toothrel_missing=7F

fuelcut_min_kpa=00

fuelcut_max_kpa=FF

tach_channel=0F

tach_div=10

shiftcut_conf_input=08

shiftcut_tpsthresh=FF

shiftcut_time=00

softrpm_rpm=58

n2o_mintps=73

n2o_minrpm=74

n2o_maxrpm=76

n2o_retard=78

n2o_minkpa=7A

n2o_maxkpa=7C

n2o_input=7E

n2o_output_channel=81

n2o_settings=3C

launch_out_channel=3C

launch_out_delay=3C

launch_out_pwmlow=47

launch_out_pwmhigh=73

launch_out_pwmramp=75

launch_out_ontime=77

launch_out_conf=78

boostsw_conf=7A

boostgauge_channel=7F

boostgauge_offset=7E

boostgauge_mul=80

map_filter=04

speed_sensor=02

gears[0]=08

gears[1]=10

gears[2]=01

gears[3]=20

gears[4]=40

gears[5]=80

boost_mult[0]=FF

boost_mult[1]=FF

boost_mult[2]=FF

boost_mult[3]=FF

boost_mult[4]=FF

inj_mult_trim[0]=FF

inj_mult_trim[1]=FF

inj_mult_trim[2]=FF

inj_mult_trim[3]=30

inj_mult_trim[4]=10

inj_mult_trim[5]=00

inj_mult_trim[6]=00

inj_mult_trim[7]=00

iac_conf2=00

warning_rpm=00

warning_kpa=00

warning_conf=FF

warning_adc_value=FF

warning_egt=FF

warning_afr=FF

warning_clt=00

warning_channel=FF

injection_angle=FF

boost_tps_dc_scale=FF

n2o_mingear=FF

misc1out_conditions=00

misc1out_condition1=FF

misc1out_condition2=FF

misc2out_conditions=00

misc2out_condition1=FF

misc2out_condition2=FF

knock_gain[0]=FF

knock_gain[1]=FF

knock_gain[2]=FF

knock_gain[3]=FF

knock_gain[4]=FF

knock_gain[5]=3D

knock_gain[6]=3D

knock_gain[7]=3D

knock_reference[0]=3D

knock_reference[1]=3D

knock_reference[2]=3D

knock_reference[3]=3D

knock_reference[4]=3D

knock_reference[5]=3D

knock_reference[6]=3D

knock_reference[7]=3D

knock_calibration_min=3D

knock_calibration_max=3D

inj_add_trim[0]=3D

inj_add_trim[1]=3D

inj_add_trim[2]=3D

inj_add_trim[3]=3D

inj_add_trim[4]=3D

inj_add_trim[5]=3D

inj_add_trim[6]=3D

inj_add_trim[7]=3D

inj_deadtime[0]=3D

inj_deadtime[1]=3D

inj_deadtime[2]=3D

inj_deadtime[3]=3D

inj_deadtime[4]=3D

inj_deadtime[5]=3D

inj_deadtime[6]=3D

inj_deadtime[7]=3D

inj_deadtime[8]=3D

inj_deadtime[9]=3D

acc_coeff_cold=3D

acc_coeff_warm=3D

acc_fadeout_rate1=3D

acc_fadeout_rate2=3D

acc_tps_deadband=3D

dec_coeff_cold=3D

dec_coeff_warm=3D

dec_fadeout_rate1=3D

dec_fadeout_rate2=3D

dec_tps_deadband=3D

film_coeff_cold=3D

film_coeff_warm=3D

film_rate=3D

film_scale=3D

film_rpm_scale=3D

vvti_cold=3C

vvti_idle=3C

vvti_pid_kp=3D

vvti_pid_ki=3D

vvti_pid_kd=3D

vvti_pid_ilimit=3D

vvti_channel=3D

accel_rpm[0]=3D

accel_rpm[1]=3D

accel_rpm[2]=3D

accel_rpm[3]=3D

accel_scale[0]=3D

accel_scale[1]=3D

accel_scale[2]=3D

accel_scale[3]=3D

inj_stage2_conf=3C

crankpw[0]=3D

crankpw[1]=3D

crankpw[2]=3D

crankpw[3]=3D

crankpw[4]=3D

crankpw[5]=3D

crankpw[6]=3D

crankpw[7]=3D

crankpw[8]=3D

crankpw[9]=3D

[PeepPaadam]

May sound obvious but did you fill in the reference tooth table?

[Sprocket]

Refference tooth?

 

[MWfire]

mega tune, advanced, reference tooth table

[Sprocket]

Now then

What value do I put in there then. I had a look through the change log but i cant see anything that relates to this 

[MWfire]

change ignchmax to =03 and put in table 0 16 0 16
And check ignition output.

[Sprocket]

Now this is getting confusing

I have dual out configured, what do I do with the other two h[2] entries and why 0 16 0 16 in h[1]

I have trigger tooth as 1 and next trigger tooth as 18, would these not be the values to enter into h[1] 1 18, then my TDC after trigger will remain the same.

I did eventualy find something on this ( not very explanative)but the Change log supplied with the firmware mentions nothing of this.

Please remember I have moved from 1.0.73 firmware where the 1.1.x firmwares were for special trigger applications, I know nothing of all these new (apparently old) features

[Sprocket]

Ok then so the first h[1] entry acording to this will indeed be 0, so the second entry will be 17 on a 36-1 wheel?

I think I understand now that even with dual out mode, if I set ignchmax to 03, then set h[2] to 0+1 2+3 0+1 2+3 then h[1] to 0 17 0 17. But why do that when the same thing is ignchmax = 01. h[2] = 0+1 2+3. h[1] 0 17?



Please help me with this as I have a week to get this back up and running, for a return visit to the dyno to finish off where we failed as a result of 4 degrees ignition advance dissapearing from the map to what went into the engine! Then its the dyno shoot out on the saturday and I HAVE to be there, after all it was I that organised it 

Thanks chaps

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h[1] is the reference tooth array (trigger_tooth and ign_tdcdelay is added to this to get TDC), for each output specified in respective h[2] entry. Examples:

    * h[1]=1E 00 1E 00 .. .. .. .. # 60-2 4 cyl (tooth 00 and 30)
          o another_trigger_tooth=1E
    * h[1]=8A 3C 1E 00 .. .. .. .. # 60-2 4 cyl with camsync (tooth 00,30,60 and 90)
          o another_trigger_tooth=1E
    * h[1]=60 48 30 18 00 .. .. .. # 60-2 5 cyl with camsync (tooth 00, 24,48,72 and 96)

[MWfire]

Sorry, refrence tooth table is 18 0 18 0 and in ignt output put same value for 0. row to 2. row and also value form 1. row to 3.row
This is my output table(wasted spakr, 2. and 3. cylinder are connected to 0 ign channel, 1. and 4. cylinder to 1 ign channel)


primary setting leave like it was, except set angular widht of tooth=10 degrees
and check VE,spark and lambda map if map and rpm values are good

[Sprocket]

Im running COP with dual out

This config is looking very similar to the injector config, its just fragmanted in comparison.

Why though, set ignchmax = 03? when 01, h[2] 0+1 2+3, h[1] 0 18 is the same

I am learning alot with this but think there is some un nescisary config going on here. I think I will have to have a play tomorrow 

Keep the info coming, I need all the info I can digest over the next 16 hours so when I come home from work, I can start playing with the car