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VEMS opens injector full time,

Started by gunni, March 17, 2008, 07:05:42 PM

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gunni

It started the other day, when the vems started opening the #4 injector fully and drowning it in fuel,
not sure but I was messing with the injfet7 for icv at the time, now I unhooked the channel8(inj4) disabled the ICV
and used injfet7 for #4 and changed it in the injector output ,, all is well, until now my #3 injector is doing the same,
so much that my exhaust leaks and reaks of fuel.

As a test to see if my fuel system in it self was ok, I had the vems run the pump for a while,
turns out , the injector had opened and the engine hydrolocked, so I had to remove the plugs,
so with the plugs disconnected, I unhooked the coil output from the VEMS then attempted to start the engine with the plugs off and no ignition, well well well, the #3 cyl just spat out the biggest gulp of petrol I have seen.

IÃ,´m putting in my tables and config so people can look over them.
I opened the vems unit and nothing seems different from when I closed it.

So in short, vems is opening the #3(channel4) when on.
it is very likely still doing it to channel8 but since I moved the injector I donÃ,´t know.

config -


primep=46

primep_temp_scaling=00

cwl=AE

cwh=2A

cranking_thres=05

awev=5A

awev_temp_scaling=33

awec=85

warmup_clt_range[0]=00

warmup_clt_range[1]=0F

warmup_clt_range[2]=14

warmup_clt_range[3]=37

warmup_clt_range[4]=50

warmup_clt_range[5]=64

warmup_clt_range[6]=78

warmup_clt_range[7]=8C

warmup_clt_range[8]=AA

warmup_clt_range[9]=C8

warmup_clt[0]=A0

warmup_clt[1]=A0

warmup_clt[2]=9E

warmup_clt[3]=8D

warmup_clt[4]=78

warmup_clt[5]=6E

warmup_clt[6]=6B

warmup_clt[7]=69

warmup_clt[8]=67

warmup_clt[9]=64

warmup_rpm_scale=63

req_fuel=3A

divider=01

alternate=05

injopen=3F

battfac=28

kpafac=C8

kpaoffs=9E

injocfuel=15

injrampup_battfac=FF

injpwm=FF

injpwmt=FF

als_launch_input=0C

rpmk[0]=07

rpmk[1]=D0

tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00

tpsdotrate[0]=02

tpsdotrate[1]=14

tpsdotrate[2]=28

tpsdotrate[3]=4D

tpsaq[0]=00

tpsaq[1]=0A

tpsaq[2]=0F

tpsaq[3]=14

als_cut_mintps=E6

tpsasync=03

acmult=64

tpsacold=00

launch_enrich=4D

launch_retard=C8

overrun_fuelcut=11

overrun_fuelresume=0E

rev_limit=41

airden_ignore=62

config11=51

config12=00

config13=02

batt_cal=C4

fastidle=0C

als_max_cut=0D

dbaro=0C

tps_low=5A

tps_high=A0

fan_temp=EA

fan_hyst=03

fan_channel=0F

iac_step_seq=D8

iac_conf=28

iac_max_steps=D2

iac_tps_thres=03

iac_cold_idle_temp=BF

iac_warm_idle_temp=C6

iac_cold_rpm=82

iac_warm_rpm=4B

iac_cold_start_pos=7B

iac_warm_start_pos=75

iac_afterstart_rpm=08

iac_afterstart_duration=60

iac_speed=FF

iac_kp=20

iac_ki=16

iac_kd=10

launch_rpm=2D

iac_integral_limit_dec=10

iac_integral_limit_inc=25

iac_integral_deadband=15

iac_deadband=23

als_cut_maxtps=FF

iac_overclose_interval=01

iac_ref_pos[0]=BA

iac_ref_pos[1]=B5

iac_ref_pos[2]=A6

iac_ref_pos[3]=A1

iac_ref_pos[4]=9C

iac_ref_pos[5]=94

iac_ref_pos[6]=8C

iac_ref_pos[7]=87

iac_ref_pos[8]=82

iac_ref_pos[9]=80

iac_sol_channel=7F

iac_ign_slope=FF

softrpm_range=4B

iac_ign_advance_limit=14

iac_ign_retard_limit=14

iac_ign_threshold=08

ego_conf=00

ego_lag=02

ego_coolant=B1

ego_maxtps=00

ego_maxmap=50

ego_minrpm=00

ego_maxrpm=1E

ego_warmup=3C

ego_lean_limit=80

ego_rich_limit=80

ego_pid_kp=1E

als_enrich=00

ego_delta=0D

ego_target=18

ego_pid_window=04

wbo2_warmup_ramp=F0

als_react_tps=FF

wbo2_abs_limit=E4

wbo2_limit_maxt=A0

wbo2_fallback=60

wbo2_retry_t=06

wbo2_edgetime_corr=BA

wbo2_edgetime_min=50

wbo2_ri_target=96

wbo2_nernstdc_target=84

wbo2_pump_pw_zero=68

wbo2_calibration=CD

wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46

wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10

wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A

wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80

wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15

wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E

wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00

wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84

wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80

knock_conf=00

knock_sampling_window=F2

knock1_frequency=27

knock1_gain=0E

knock1_integrator=14

knock2_frequency=29

knock2_gain=00

knock2_integrator=00

knock_threshold=00

knock_noise_scale=D8

knock_max_retard=00

knock_default_retard=00

knock_retard_step=28

knock_retard_delay=50

knock_advance_step=FF

knock_advance_delay=E0

knock_minrpm=14

knock_maxrpm=42

ve_learn_coolant=D8

ve_learn_max_power=FF

ve_learn_rpm_scale=28

ve_learn_kpa_scale=28

ve_learn_ego_scale=50

ve_learn_min_weight=0A

ve_learn_speed=FF

ve_learn_limit=FF

ve_learn_conf=00

lcd_c0=C4

lcd_delay=05

lcd_backlight=70

kpa_conf=22

ign_balance=28

als_retard_mintps=E6

als_retard_maxtps=FF

lcd_default_view=00

primary_trigger=00

secondary_trigger=02

tooth_wheel=3A

trigger_tooth=03

another_trigger_tooth=14

crank_minper=8B

tooth_wheel_twidth1=02

tooth_wheel_twidth2=06

cam_sync_r_edge_phase=03

cam_sync_f_edge_phase=02

reset_engphase_after=F0

ign_tdcdelay=90

ign_dwell14=2F

ign_dwell6=25

ign_crank_advance=58

ign_out=70

ignchmax=00

engine_off_delay=04

pump_on_mintime=0A

fuelpump_channel=57

inj_stage2_rate=FF

inj_stage2_start_tps=FF

inj_stage2_start_map=FE

als_deact_rpm=FF

als_deact_time=00

als_deact_egt=00

als_retard=00

als_rev_limit=37

misc1out_minrpm=00

misc1out_maxrpm=FF

misc1out_mintps=00

misc1out_maxtps=FF

misc1out_minmap=00

misc1out_maxmap=FA

misc1out_channel=17

misc2out_minrpm=FF

misc2out_maxrpm=FF

misc2out_mintps=FF

misc2out_maxtps=FF

misc2out_minmap=FE

misc2out_maxmap=FE

misc2out_channel=0F

act_wot_rpm=FF

act_wot_channel=0F

act_rpm_rpm=19

act_rpm_channel=0F

egt1_cal=40

als_tks_channel=0F

boost_conf=00

boost_targetoffs=00

boost_minpressure=59

boost_pid_kp=B0

boost_pid_ki=1A

boost_pid_kd=14

boost_pid_ilimit=FF

boost_channel=0F

water_pump_temp=48

hybrid_rpm_a=00

hybrid_rpm_m=00

water_pump_hyst=00

water_pump_channel=77

toothrel_normal=7A

toothrel_missing=B5

fuelcut_min_kpa=00

fuelcut_max_kpa=FA

tach_channel=47

tach_div=10

shiftcut_conf=EC

shiftcut_channel=FF

shiftcut_time=32

softrpm_rpm=FF

- end config
tables

j[0]=2280 1E80 2180 2D80 2E80 2F80 3080 3380 3380 3380 3180 3380
j[1]=2680 1A80 1F80 2680 3580 3680 3780 3A80 3980 3A80 3780 3580
j[2]=2780 3F80 3180 3580 3880 3A80 3B80 3D80 3F80 3E80 3980 3780
j[3]=4080 2D80 3680 3980 3B80 3C80 3E80 4080 4180 3F80 3B80 3980
j[4]=2B80 2880 3680 3A80 3A80 3C80 3E80 4180 4180 4180 3D80 3B80
j[5]=3180 3280 3580 3780 3A80 4180 4780 4780 4580 4380 4080 3F80
j[6]=3780 3980 3C80 3F80 4280 4680 4A80 4B80 4980 4580 4180 3F80
j[7]=4080 4280 4480 4680 4880 4980 4A80 4C80 4B80 4680 4380 4080
j[8]=4B80 4C80 4C80 4E80 4E80 4E80 4E80 4E80 4D80 4680 4380 4180
j[9]=5180 5380 5380 5380 5280 5280 5280 5280 5080 4C80 4A80 4780
j[A]=5A80 5580 5A80 5A80 5980 5880 5780 5580 5280 4E80 4C80 4980
j=6980 6980 6980 6980 6980 6280 5E80 5B80 5780 5480 5480 5080
l[0]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37
l[1]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37
l[2]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37
l[3]=37 37 37 37 37 55 55 55 55 55 55 55
l[4]=55 55 55 66 66 66 66 66 55 55 55 55
l[5]=55 55 55 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66
l[6]=55 55 55 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66
l[7]=5E 5E 5E 5E 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66
l[8]=66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66 66
l[9]=7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E
l[A]=7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E
l=7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E
n[0]=3C 3C 50 64 98 A4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4 B4
n[1]=3C 39 57 64 8C 98 A8 A8 A8 A8 A8 A8
n[2]=44 3C 5C 70 80 90 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0 A0
n[3]=50 3C 58 78 80 88 98 98 98 98 98 98
n[4]=50 3C 50 74 7C 84 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C 8C
n[5]=50 3C 50 68 70 78 78 78 78 78 78 78
n[6]=50 3C 50 5C 64 6C 6C 6C 6C 6C 6C 6C
n[7]=50 3C 50 58 58 58 5C 60 68 68 68 68
n[8]=50 3C 50 58 58 58 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C 5C
n[9]=50 3C 50 54 58 4C 4C 50 58 58 58 58
n[A]=50 3C 50 54 54 48 48 4C 5C 5C 5C 5C
n=50 3C 50 50 50 50 50 54 58 58 58 58
k[0]=0A 14 1E 28 32 41 4B 55 5F 69 73 7D
r[0]=05 07 0D 14 19 1E 23 28 32 39 3F 46
h[0]=40 02 20 04 10 01 00 00
h[1]=FF FF FF FF FF FF 01 02
h[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
b[0]=64 64 64 64 64 64 64 64 64 64 64 64
t[0]=FF 64 64 64 64 64 64 64
- end tables


gunni

Tested using the mdh commands and allt the fets close and open on command.

dnb

Check all the outputs in something like Megatune.  You might find one of them holding the injector open.

gunni


MWfire



MWfire

Two things idle dual solenoid(put disable) and advanced anti lag system(input channel put disable), but i not sure if is this   associate to your problem.

gunni

According to MT and the tables and config they are disabled, all of them.

gunni

moved the 3rd injector to channel128, my last channel.

car runs as should, but since bores have been washed well with petrol
itÃ,´s going to take some time for it to maintain compression, so I disabled it as driving around provided my street with
alot of fog, not mist but blue smoke,
but knowing that it worked was good enough, so the injector isnÃ,´t at fault,
after disabling it stopped smoking, as itÃ,´s the blow by that is coming back through the crank case ventilation to the throttle body
and getting burned there.

If anybody has anything I could test out on the board it self and check whatÃ,´s going on IÃ,´ll be happy to do it,
ran through the wiki and didnÃ,´t really find anything usefull there. it all really needs a test bench to be tested on,


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I had a spare moment this evening and ran the configs and tables that you sent me.
It was an easy mistake to make - You had the dual solenoid channel set to INJFET 7, this means it takes the entry in position 7 - which was 128 I guess, and then takes the value in 0, which was channel 4.

If you set the dual solenoid IAC to INJFET 6 it will use the values in 6 & 7 and not keen pulsing your 3rd injector.

Rob