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Offline Bambi

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What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« on: December 16, 2012, 01:12:27 pm »
Hi All

I want to (re)start my project URS4. the story begins 2 years ago....

History:

2 years ago I bought a genboard 3.6 and a 55 pin motronic plug. The idea was to make a harnass to plug into the original 55 pin bosch plug - which I eventually did 6 months ago. It would not start, and I did not have time at that stage to solve the problem. I have some time now, but while I have mapped a car before using the 55pin motronic version, I have no idea how to set this one up. The car does start and run with a friend's 55 pin unit running 1.1.81, so I thought to upgrade from 1.1.27 to 1.1.81 and load his config - if I can figure out how to do that. Maybe there is a better firmware for the Audi urs4?

Problem no 1:

I downloaded 1.1.81 using the web tool, but when I try to upload to the vems I get an error message saying either the car is running or there is no comms with the ecu. Thing is, I can connect and edit values on the ecu, so I don't understand what to do?

Problem 2:

Is saving the config from his unit to PC as easy as "File-Save config"
Is loading it to mine "Tools-Firmware-Config upload"

Thanx for the help!

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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 02:25:37 pm »
I updated my Vemstune to the newest July 2012 version and now the firmware update works fine. I updated to 1.1.81 and loaded (I think) the saved config from the other unit. What worries me though is that I get a error message that says I must press the config validate button because there are errors, but I don't find the config validate button...

I attach a log of me trying to start - I see I dont get and rpm signal. I rechecked the wiring from the vems to the 55 pin connector and it seems fine. Maybe I am using the wrong pinout - that I will also attach.

Any thoughts?

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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 02:27:34 pm »
oops... how do I post an excel file and a log file?

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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 02:34:07 pm »
When connected to an ECU, or offline with a config/vemslog opened up, you find the "Validate config" buttonto the  right of the "LOG" button under the menu bar.

My tip to you, try the latest 1.2.x instead. It works just fine and is easier for troubleshooting. Make sure to use the latest "nightly" VemsTune, see www.vems.hu/vt

To share vemslog and triggerlog files, use the Help menu in VemsTune and the built-in "Error reporting" which requires an internet connection. It creates an online page for your query, the link you are given to this is meant for sharing with the forum and whoever you want.

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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 04:06:42 pm »
1.2.2 I think. There is special tweaks for Audi triggering.
 Or 1.1.95 (not 96).

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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 07:54:37 pm »
AAN   EC18/36   note   Function / Assignment
1   EC18-11   Stepper-D   Power output stage for ignition, cylinder #1
2   EC18-05   Stepper-C   Power output stage for ignition, cylinder #2
3   EC36-18   INJ-F   Fuel pump relay control
4   EC36-06   INJ-G   Audi Idle air control, needs Schottky flyback
8   EC36-13   Sec. Trigger   Hall effect sensor (signal wire from G40 pin #2)
10   EC36-5   GND5   Ground #1 (0V) - Inlet manifold
11   EC18-01      Knock Sensor 1 (AAN: cylinder: 1,3)
12   EC36-28   Sensor 5V   +5V for HALL, altitude sensor, coding plug connector
14   EC36-21   GND5   0V Reference Signal (AAN: sensor)
16   EC36-07   INJ-A   Fuel injector #5 control (switched 0V)
17   EC36-08   INJ-C   Fuel injector #2 control (switched 0V)
19   EC36-32   GND5   Ground #3 (0V) (Solder on the bottom side)
20   EC18-10   Stepper-B   Power output stage for ignition, cylinder #4
21   EC18-04   Stepper-A   Power output stage for ignition, cylinder #5
22   EC36-15   p259-5   CEL check engine light
23   EC36-11   Ignch4   Power output stage for ignition, cylinder #3
24   EC36-32   GND5   Ground #4 (0V)
27   EC36-25   VBATT    +12V Ignition ON (Terminal 15)
29   EC18-02      Knock Sensor 2 (AAN: cylinder: 4,5)
30   EC36-26   GND   0V Reference Signal (AAN: sensor)
31   EC36-31   1k * 10uF   Fuel consumption signal for trip computer (J128)
32   EC36-15   1k * 10uF   Boost pressure signal for trip computer (Not used on S2)
33   EC36-17   INJ-H   Wastegate frequency valve control (switched 0V) 
34   EC36-09   INJ-E   Fuel injector #3 control (switched 0V)
35   EC36-19   INJ-B   Fuel injector #4 control (switched 0V)
36   EC36-20   INJ-D   Fuel injector #1 control (switched 0V)
37   EC36-23   Flyback   +12V battery feed, via Fuse S28
40   EC36-04   P259-ch0   Tachometer signal (to Instruments & Autocheck)
44   EC36-02   MAT   Intake air temperature sensor, 429 Ohm pullup
45   EC36-14   CLT   Coolant temperature sensor
47   EC18-12   LM1815sectrig   Crankshaft position sensor 62 BTDC cyl1
48   EC18-17   GND   Reference point for engine speed and crankshaft position sensors
49   EC36-27   Prim. Trigger   Engine speed sensor 135 cranktooth
50   EC18-08   speed in   Wheel speed input, 4k7 4k7 and 5v1 Zener protection diode.
53   EC36-01   TPS   Throttle valve position (F60/G69 Pin #3)
         
         
WBO2         
SSC5   hossz   EC18/36   Funkció
   350mm      
1   445mm      nernst
2   470mm      Supply 12V
3   445mm      Heater -
4   445mm      Pump -
5   440mm      Pump +
         
SSC6   hossz   EC18/36   Funkció
1      EC36-16   p259 ch1
2         mcp3208 ch6
3         mcp3208 ch7
4      EC36-34   IGN ch2
5      EC36-36   IGN ch3
6         GND

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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2012, 08:14:14 pm »
I used the error reporting tool (hopefully correctly). Here is the url (I hthink)

http://vems.hu/vemstune/bugreports/reports.php?cmd=view&key=MDAnpV


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Re: What firmware to use for Audi URS4
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2012, 08:21:35 pm »
When uploading the config like this:

http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=VemsTune%2FQuickStartAudi

do I only select the 2 top ones: "Basic config" and " Basic tables", or must I select some other options as well?