1.1.80 firmware

[lugnuts]

The missing Boost per Gear or Speed tables are related to the config file. 

If you have the fw in an actual ecu, these tables will appear. then you can see them in that config file offline.

[Erikk]

Regarding the injector angles, are the values you enter in Vemstune ATDC or BTDC?

http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=GenBoard/Manual/Config/InjectorTiming

It's degreese of delay from the trigger tooth. So 500 is later in the engine cycle than 250.


I think everyone should try it out, it really makes a big difference!

So in effect the angle is the cycles afters trigger tooth not TDC , assuming a 720 full cycle cycle for a full event then setting 300 is 300 degrees of the cycle after the hitting the 1st trigger tooth.

And the presumption i've seen from other threads is that 360 degree of the cycle is when the valve opens

Or am I wide of the mark here?

Its the injectors trigger tooth, everything depends on how you configure your injector outputs agains the trigger reference tooth table.
So putting 720 in the table should be like moving your injector outputs one step.

[BigD]

Its the injectors trigger tooth, everything depends on how you configure your injector outputs agains the trigger reference tooth table.
So putting 720 in the table should be like moving your injector outputs one step.

This is the bizarre default table I had from the upgrade. My friend has incremental RPM bins and 720, both of our engines work just fine. If 720 shifts injector by one, how can the engine even run? Shouldn't they all be 0 then?

Thanks!

[Jamo]

I thought 720 is the same as having 0?

Weird, my table on upgrade didn't look like that!

[BigD]

I thought 720 is the same as having 0?

Weird, my table on upgrade didn't look like that!

True, that does make sense. I guess it starts at 720 so you can move it back not just forward? Would this add an extra revolution before the engine would start?

[Erikk]

Its the injectors trigger tooth, everything depends on how you configure your injector outputs agains the trigger reference tooth table.
So putting 720 in the table should be like moving your injector outputs one step.

This is the bizarre default table I had from the upgrade. My friend has incremental RPM bins and 720, both of our engines work just fine. If 720 shifts injector by one, how can the engine even run? Shouldn't they all be 0 then?

Thanks!

The defaults from an upgrade seems to be almost random from time to time.

Its not critical to inject fuel at the correct moment, the engine will still run..

[Erikk]

I thought 720 is the same as having 0?

Weird, my table on upgrade didn't look like that!

True, that does make sense. I guess it starts at 720 so you can move it back not just forward? Would this add an extra revolution before the engine would start?

It´s a delay function, put 0 to disable it - then its exactly like having an older firmware / you should start configurating it from 0.

[BigD]

Got it, thanks!

[Erikk]

Its the injectors trigger tooth, everything depends on how you configure your injector outputs agains the trigger reference tooth table.
So putting 720 in the table should be like moving your injector outputs one step.

Hmm, didnt think that through i guess  .

180degrees must be like moving one injector output on a 4cyl.

So you´re right that 0 and 720 should be the same.


So if you fire a cylinders coil and injector at the "same time" and delaying the injector over 360degreese then its on the intake stroke again.

So it all depends on that you shoot them at the same time.



Does that seems a little more correct?

[lezsi]

What changes happened to fueling in 1.1.81?
I haven't found any info, the firmwarechanges is all about triggering and the inj. angle stuff,
but two cars fueling (upgraded from 1.1.80 and 1.1.78) were off in my experiment.

[billman]

Hi, i just upgraded to 1.1.81 and see that MAT/TPS enrichment setting. What must i change? 100 is no change 105 i.e . is richer and 97 is leaner?

does enyone else has any clue on injector angle and Audi 5 Cyl engines?

[gunni]

The numbers are %´s

so 100 is 100% or multiplication of 1.00

Check out the calc model gauge group, there you can see how all the math works.

[billman]

is there any doc with explenation on the Acc enrichment? I need silly amounts of fuel to have it run somehow well!

[gunni]

What do you consider silly amounts?

[billman]

With the old setup i had:  4 - 20 - 60 -80 and 0.1 - 0.2 - 0.3 - 0.5

With the new : 1 - 5 - 20 - 40 and 1 - 1.4 - 1.2 - 1

The newer engine has same injectors but is approx 300 ccm bigger and the turbine housing is bigger.

i installed to the new 1.1.81 now and i have it like this but it is still not right: