No Rpm (Problem Solved)

[JimCoupeTQ]

Hi all,

Today i tried to test my trigger input using the signalgen..   I use a VR sensor and it seems like the VEMS recieves and  detects the signal because the fuelpump starts.. But i cant se any RPM activity in me vemstune window hmm..    I tried to use the drill earlier that day before i dicovered the tools/signalgen.. but then my RPM only came up to 100rpm no matter how i did..  But with signalgen notting appeared..
I changed firmware to 1.1.64 from 1.1.27 heh... but then notting happened.. not even the FP wouldn start.

Is there any more setting that I have to adjust to make this work..  shall i do somethin in the config or ??


I use a 60-2 wheel and VR sensor
Mainboard V3.6.
Firware  (ehm i use diffrent... dunno really wich one who works and im gettin fekkin tired of this)



// Jim

[mattias]

.vemscfg or no help.

[JimCoupeTQ]

Okej.. be back later..

[JimCoupeTQ]

Heres the config.






# CurrentTime: 2010-01-21 21:08:17
# Creator: VemsTune 0.10.14 (2010.01.08)
# Version: 1.1.27
# SerialNumber: v3.3_n002688
# CompilationTime: Mon Sep  3 15:10:58 CEST 2007
# Signature: VEMS v1.1 16x14 kpa=2,2
# CompileOptions: 00000002

primep=00
primep_temp_scaling=33
cwl=21
cwh=12
cranking_thres=02
awev=63
awev_temp_scaling=4A
awec=11
warmup_clt_range[0]=00
warmup_clt_range[1]=0E
warmup_clt_range[2]=22
warmup_clt_range[3]=36
warmup_clt_range[4]=50
warmup_clt_range[5]=64
warmup_clt_range[6]=78
warmup_clt_range[7]=8C
warmup_clt_range[8]=AA
warmup_clt_range[9]=C8
warmup_clt[0]=C8
warmup_clt[1]=C8
warmup_clt[2]=AA
warmup_clt[3]=8C
warmup_clt[4]=82
warmup_clt[5]=7B
warmup_clt[6]=78
warmup_clt[7]=73
warmup_clt[8]=6E
warmup_clt[9]=64
warmup_rpm_scale=A8
req_fuel=1E
divider=01
alternate=04
injopen=00
battfac=22
kpafac=D0
kpaoffs=94
injocfuel=08
injrampup_battfac=FF
injpwm=FF
injpwmt=FF
als_launch_input=FF
rpmk[0]=09
rpmk[1]=60
tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00
tpsdotrate[0]=04
tpsdotrate[1]=07
tpsdotrate[2]=0F
tpsdotrate[3]=1A
tpsaq[0]=01
tpsaq[1]=02
tpsaq[2]=03
tpsaq[3]=0A
als_cut_mintps=FF
tpsasync=03
acmult=6E
tpsacold=14
launch_enrich=00
launch_retard=00
overrun_fuelcut=10
overrun_fuelresume=0F
rev_limit=48
airden_ignore=61
config11=41
config12=40
config13=02
batt_cal=C6
fastidle=C6
als_max_cut=00
dbaro=0A
tps_low=16
tps_high=E6
fan_temp=EA
fan_hyst=05
fan_channel=FF
iac_step_seq=D8
iac_conf=18
iac_max_steps=C8
iac_tps_thres=05
iac_cold_idle_temp=63
iac_warm_idle_temp=B4
iac_cold_rpm=6E
iac_warm_rpm=55
iac_cold_start_pos=B3
iac_warm_start_pos=6B
iac_afterstart_rpm=0A
iac_afterstart_duration=19
iac_speed=05
iac_kp=32
iac_ki=19
iac_kd=0A
launch_rpm=FF
iac_integral_limit_dec=23
iac_integral_limit_inc=78
iac_integral_deadband=14
iac_deadband=32
als_cut_maxtps=00
iac_overclose_interval=80
iac_ref_pos[0]=BF
iac_ref_pos[1]=BA
iac_ref_pos[2]=AD
iac_ref_pos[3]=A8
iac_ref_pos[4]=A1
iac_ref_pos[5]=91
iac_ref_pos[6]=82
iac_ref_pos[7]=7A
iac_ref_pos[8]=75
iac_ref_pos[9]=73
iac_sol_channel=FF
iac_ign_slope=14
softrpm_range=32
iac_ign_advance_limit=20
iac_ign_retard_limit=18
iac_ign_threshold=18
ego_conf=06
ego_lag=04
ego_coolant=7E
ego_maxtps=E6
ego_maxmap=69
ego_minrpm=07
ego_maxrpm=46
ego_warmup=14
ego_lean_limit=1F
ego_rich_limit=0A
ego_pid_kp=1E
als_enrich=00
ego_delta=03
ego_target=19
ego_pid_window=01
wbo2_warmup_ramp=A0
als_react_tps=00
wbo2_abs_limit=E4
wbo2_limit_maxt=A0
wbo2_fallback=B0
wbo2_retry_t=06
als_retard_rpm1=BA
als_retard_rpm2=50
wbo2_ri_target=96
wbo2_nernstdc_target=86
wbo2_pump_pw_zero=64
wbo2_calibration=A9
wbo2_heater_pid_kp=46
wbo2_heater_pid_ki=10
wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A
wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=80
wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15
wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E
wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00
wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=84
wbo2_ri_confidence_scale=80
knock_chan=F0
knock_sampling_window=F2
knock1_frequency=29
knock1_gain=0E
knock1_integrator=14
knock2_frequency=29
knock2_gain=00
knock2_integrator=00
knock_threshold=0A
knock_noise_scale=D8
knock_max_retard=18
knock_default_retard=04
knock_retard_step=04
knock_retard_delay=30
knock_advance_step=01
knock_advance_delay=50
knock_minrpm=0A
knock_maxrpm=42
ve_learn_coolant=D8
ve_learn_max_power=FF
ve_learn_rpm_scale=1E
ve_learn_kpa_scale=1E
ve_learn_ego_scale=43
ve_learn_min_weight=4D
ve_learn_speed=FF
ve_learn_limit=33
ve_learn_conf=00
lcd_c0=FE
lcd_delay=42
lcd_backlight=FF
kpa_conf=22
als_igncut_rpm2=00
als_retard_mintps=FF
als_retard_maxtps=00
lcd_default_view=00
primary_trigger=43
secondary_trigger=19
tooth_wheel=5A
trigger_tooth=00
another_trigger_tooth=12
crank_minper=00
tooth_wheel_twidth1=00
tooth_wheel_twidth2=20
cam_sync_r_edge_phase=00
cam_sync_f_edge_phase=00
reset_engphase_after=40
ign_tdcdelay=74
ign_dwell14=30
ign_dwell6=00
ign_crank_advance=28
ign_out=70
ignchmax=04
engine_off_delay=02
pump_on_mintime=26
fuelpump_channel=52
inj_stage2_rate=FF
inj_stage2_start_tps=FF
inj_stage2_start_map=FF
als_igncut_rpm1=FF
als_deact_time=01
als_deact_egt=00
als_retard=00
als_rev_limit=40
misc1out_minrpm=FF
misc1out_maxrpm=FF
misc1out_mintps=FF
misc1out_maxtps=FF
misc1out_minmap=FF
misc1out_maxmap=FF
misc1out_channel=FF
misc2out_minrpm=FF
misc2out_maxrpm=FF
misc2out_mintps=FF
misc2out_maxtps=FF
misc2out_minmap=FF
misc2out_maxmap=FF
misc2out_channel=FF
act_wot_rpm=FF
act_wot_channel=FF
act_rpm_rpm=FF
act_rpm_channel=FF
egt1_cal=4A
als_tks_channel=FF
boost_conf=66
boost_targetoffs=00
boost_minpressure=3A
boost_pid_kp=D6
boost_pid_ki=46
boost_pid_kd=2C
boost_pid_ilimit=7D
boost_channel=6F
water_pump_temp=00
hybrid_rpm_a=00
hybrid_rpm_m=00
water_pump_hyst=7E
water_pump_channel=FF
toothrel_normal=76
toothrel_missing=00
fuelcut_min_kpa=08
fuelcut_max_kpa=90
tach_channel=0F
tach_div=10
shiftcut_conf=01
shiftcut_channel=FF
shiftcut_time=7F
softrpm_rpm=50
h[0]=01 02 04 08 10 20 40 80
h[1]=00 48 36 24 12 00 00 00
h[2]=20 70 30 10 00 60 00 00
j[0]=4A 4B 4E 57 56 52 63 63 63 63 63 63 4A 44 52 55
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j[3]=5E 5E 62 5E 61 66 74 76 7A 7B 7B 7A 70 70 6F 71
j[4]=73 78 81 87 88 8D 92 96 73 73 73 77 78 7B 82 8A
j[5]=8C 91 96 9B 78 78 76 74 75 7B 84 8A 8E 93 98 9F
j[6]=7B 7B 79 78 7C 7E 84 8A 8E 93 98 9F 82 82 84 85
j[7]=85 87 8B 90 93 96 9C A2 82 82 84 85 85 87 8B 90
j[8]=93 96 9C A2 82 82 84 85 85 87 8B 90 93 96 9C A2
j[9]=6D 75 75 63 63 63 66 5C 5C 63 63 7E 7E 7E 7E 14
j[A]=31 58 FF 0F 2B 46 FA C2 C2 C2 C2 C2 A1 A1 89 93
j=98 A0 A2 A8 B0 BA C5 C2 C2 C2 C2 C2 BF BF C2 C2
j[C]=95 A0 BF BF C2 C2 95 A0 BA C2 C2 C2 95 A0 BA C2
j[D]=C2 C2 A0 A8 BA C2 C2 C2 35 2F 2F 2F 2F 2F 34 30
r[0]=07 0C 10 16 1C 22 29 31 37 3D 43 4A FF FF FF FF
k[0]=0F 17 1C 28 33 41 50 5F 6E 7D 8C 9B FC FF
l[0]=37 37 2D 2C 2D 33 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37 2D 2C
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l[2]=37 37 37 37 37 37 2D 2C 2C 2C 31 37 37 37 37 37
l[3]=37 37 33 33 33 35 35 3A 3C 3C 3C 3C 3A 3A 37 37
l[4]=37 37 37 3A 3C 3C 3C 3C 3C 3A 37 35 37 37 37 3C
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l[6]=4C 4C 49 46 46 46 4C 4D 54 54 58 5B 63 63 63 64
l[7]=6A 63 63 64 64 6B 6B 6B 74 74 74 74 74 74 79 7E
l[8]=7E 86 86 86 79 79 79 7E 81 86 86 86 86 89 89 89
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l=51 51 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A 6A 02 02 02 02
l[C]=02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02
l[D]=02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 02
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[mattias]

Upgrade to 1.1.64, no use in supporting a very out-dated firmware and you're not running anything special now that you have a 60-2 primary trigger.

Your default settings are a bit off.. I have e-mailed you a similar config but you have to transfer the trigger reference tooth table and your output channels to that config.

Did your car ever work before or what? The map didn't look to be tuned or worked on at all.

[JimCoupeTQ]

Thanks for helping me Mattias...

I even called a friends friend to get som help.. to get some but he (simon)) was busy today

I downloaded your config and loaded it.. then after that i didnt get any connection to my box at all, But then we changed compter again and the connection went OK..
Everyting was then very stable.... I tried the signalgen in vemstune a "boing"  i recived a noisy signal... intead i connected my VR sensor and used a drill and the signal was verystable.. i recieved signal from 0-1500rpm from the drill. That was a very nice feeling


Now im facing a new problem..  we tried to se if we could get any spark from coil.  I used you settings without any changes (multithoot, no camsync and so on) but dint mange to ger spark..
but i have some more things to check before i can be sure ive made averything right.. 
A strange thing that i dicovered was that when i mounted my VR senor in the bracket and cranked the engine with "multitooth" i didnt recieve any rpm.. But when i changed to "Coil type" i recieved rpm when VR was mounted in bracket in my engine.. I dismounted the sensor, changed back to "Mulitooth" and then i recieved a nice rpm signal again..  I the "Coil Type" mode more sensitive than "Multitooth" ?   As i know and have be thought is that i shall use "Multitooth" for my 60-2 configuration.. same as you do..   but it seems that my sensor is more sensitive in "Multitooth mode"..   I use a never used bosch VR sensor..  I tried to use my drill and get some sparks from that.. but thats probably a stupid shoutght... Tomorrow i´ll connect some diodes to test with and do one more check with the wiring.. now im veery tired good night

Thank so far Mattias helped alot ! 

// Jim

[mattias]

When you change things like the primary trigger settings I would seriously advice you to reset the ECU between changes, these are fundamental things that never change during the install and are set once. You must set the type to "multi-tooth" and leave it like that, it will work.

Use a 1 mm thickness/feeler gauge between the trigger sensor and wheel, verify this distance - no more, no less.

[JimCoupeTQ]

Thanks i gonna check that !